From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 17:29:10 +1100, Bill Sloman    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 16/11/2025 5:31 am, john larkin wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 12:29:32 -0500, "Edward Rawde"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> "Bill Sloman"  wrote in message news:1   
   fa447$3htrq$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>> On 15/11/2025 8:23 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:   
   >>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 15/11/2025 4:46 am, Liz Tuddenham wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> [...]   
   >>> ...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When you get down to signals as low as -150 dBm there will be Johnson   
   >>>>> noise and intermodulation products contributed by the components within   
   >>>>> the oscillator.  Selecting individual harmonics with a narrow-band   
   >>>>> filter will give an unrealistic number that doesn't represent the total   
   >>>>> unwanted output.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> You are comparing apples and pears as your "5 Kc.s bandwidth" makes   
   >>>>>> clear. if you have been cribbing from a more modern source it would have   
   >>>>>> been a 5kHz bandwidth.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You have no idea what I did, so stop posting offensive nonsense.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm pretty confident that you don't have much of an  idea what you did   
   either. That's probably offensive, but sadly it isn't   
   >>>> nonsense.   
   >>>>   
   >>> I can remember one of the presenters on   
   >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow%27s_World   
   >>> deliberately saying cycles per second instead of Hz because that expressed   
   >>> what he wanted to say.   
   >>> Naming units after people is not very sensible in my view because it just   
   adds   
   >>> confusion. cycles/s or cycles*s^-1 is fine with me.   
   >>> Then it becomes trivial to see how it can be turned into seconds per cycle,   
   >>> should there be a need to do that.   
   >>> Why doesn't 1 mile per hour have a unit named after it?   
   >>> Perhaps we should call it 1 Sloman.   
   >>   
   >> That would be one mile per day.   
   >   
   >People who haven't got scientific training do go for bizarre derived   
   >units. John Larkin did complete a science degree at Tulane, but it's   
   >pretty obvious that he only got what he thought he needed. Larrikins are   
   >like that   
   >   
   >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrikin   
      
   Sounds interesting. Lunatic fringe.   
      
   But I think my Larkin name is Irish and means something like   
   groundskeeper or steward.   
      
   >   
   >One can understand how the family name got truncated.   
      
   Sloman is derived from Slowman, meaning a tedious, pompous,   
   deliberately offensive person devoid of humor or original ideas.   
      
      
   John Larkin   
   Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center   
   Lunatic Fringe Electronics   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)