From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 18:09:54 +0100, Lasse Langwadt    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 11/26/25 18:00, john larkin wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 16:24:52 GMT, Jan Panteltje    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>>> On 26/11/2025 8:16 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:   
   >>>>>> "Tom Del Rosso" wrote:   
   >>>>>>> john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Good on-chip oscillators would be cool, on uPs and FPGAs.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I have an electric oven that seems to use the on-chip oscillatior. The   
   >>>>>> clock gains a few minutes a day. Thay could have omitted the clock and   
   >>>>>> no one would miss it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On chip oscillators are temperature dependent   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But some more so that others. I had cheap Casio watch that I bought in   
   >>>> the 1980's and it went through three lithium batteries until I managed   
   >>>> to leave it in the washing machine a couple of years ago, which wrecked   
   it.   
   >>>   
   >>> https://casiosupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000101   
   32-Quartz-movemCASIO AMERICA, INC. Watches Atomic/WaveCeptor   
   >>> All Casio watches have Quartz movements.   
   >>>   Quartz-is powered by an electronic oscillator synchronized by quartz   
   crystal.   
   >>>   The electric current causes the quartz inside to pulsate with a precise   
   frequency   
   >>   
   >> Probably all watches now have an off-chip quartz tuning-fork   
   >> resonator, usually 2^15 Hz. MEMS resonators are getting pretty good   
   >> lately, and the resonator and the oscillator circuit can be on the   
   >> same silicon chip, so I expect MEMS watches soon.   
   >>   
   >> Bulova once made a watch that used a low frequency tuning fork   
   >> resonator that directly operated a tiny ratchet.   
   >>   
   >> Given that everybody carries a phone now, why have a watch?   
   >>   
   >   
   >how else are you going to show off how much money you have?   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
   My phone is a flashlight, an RPN calculator, a clock/stopwatch, a   
   calendar, a really good camera, maps, a USB memory stick, and a phone.   
      
      
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