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   Joerg to Don Y   
   Re: kids, math   
   26 Nov 25 15:04:46   
   
   From: news@analogconsultants.com   
      
   On 11/26/25 2:47 PM, Don Y wrote:   
   > On 11/26/2025 3:10 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:   
      
   [...]   
      
      
   >> There's also a difference between what is taught and what is needed in   
   >> a workplace.   
   >> I could use a soldering iron when I got my degree, but most other   
   >> graduates couldn't.   
   >   
   > I disagree.  Skills are easy to pick up -- how long do you think it   
   > would take   
   > to teach someone how to make a reliable solder joint?   
   >   
      
   Takes way too long. Nowadays we are talking about tacking a teeny wire   
   to a 0201 size PIN diode for a temporary engineering test point so the   
   scope could be hooked up. Or briefly lifting that 0201 part. That can   
   take weeks to master.   
      
   Having to hand everything off to the tech pool and waiting until they   
   get around to it slows down EE work. Most small companies do not have   
   even a tech pool.   
      
      
   > What is needed in the workplace is the ability to LEARN.  Because only   
   > backwards looking businesses/industries worry about "today" as tomorrow   
   > will   
   > be here momentarily.  If your new hires are only good with today's   
   > skillsets,   
   > you'll be shit out of luck come tomorrow!   
   >   
      
   As an employer I would not want to have to spend time and their wages to   
   teach someone stuff they should know. It's better to hire someone who   
   already knows. Often times those folks have to be imported.   
      
   A EE (!) professor once told me "We do not train people for engineering   
   but for science". That showed the problem right there.   
      
      
   > Interviews (hiring processes) that rely on the applicant regurgitating some   
   > particular canned response are notoriously short sighted.   
   >   
      
   A couple of my interview challenges:   
      
   I threw a simple one-stage RF amp schematic onto the white board. "What   
   would you do to increase the bandwidth of this circuit?"   
      
   Other times I sat them in front of a mundane oscilloscope and asked them   
   to probe and display the waveform on that collector node over yonder.   
   Without pushing auto-set.   
      
   If they couldn't do it the interview would end rather quickly.   
      
   [...]   
      
   --   
   Regards, Joerg   
      
   http://www.analogconsultants.com/   
      
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