From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 10:00:05 -0800, Joerg    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 11/29/25 9:30 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >> On 30/11/2025 8:13 am, Joerg wrote:   
   >>> On 11/26/25 7:01 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:   
   >   
   >[...]   
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   >   
   >>>>   
   >>>> None. But plenty of present day students seem to have to have a job   
   >>>> as well as school.   
   >>>> In my case I did partially have a job while at school because   
   >>>> although my father didn't   
   >>>> specifically offer equipment repair to people off the street, I would   
   >>>> often find a   
   >>>> non functional piece of electronics waiting for me to find out what   
   >>>> was wrong with it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Exactly. Either that or have an electronics hobby. In my case that was   
   >>> ham radio but I also repaired lots of radios and TVs. The point is, if   
   >>> someone isn't doing any of this and thus hasn't acquired basic skills   
   >>> such as soldering or trying to figure out how a circuit is supposed to   
   >>> work but doesn't, maybe he or she should not head into an engineering   
   >>> career.   
   >>   
   >> Graduate students learn this kind of practical stuff later than   
   >> hobbyists, but there's no reason why they wouldn't learn it just as   
   >> well. ...   
   >   
   >   
   >The point is that there is a "too late". Once they have their degree and   
   >apply for jobs it is too late.   
   >   
   >[...]   
      
   Best to start on electronics while you're a kid.   
      
   A mentor sure helps.   
      
   Few college EE profs have ever had a real job.   
      
      
   John Larkin   
   Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center   
   Lunatic Fringe Electronics   
      
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