From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 19:44:36 +0100, Jeroen Belleman   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 12/1/25 19:14, john larkin wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 09:56:25 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid   
   >> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Laithwaite   
   >>>>   
   >>>> espoused much the same idea too,   
   >>>   
   >>> That's all you need to tell you it won't work.   
   >>>   
   >>> We used to laugh at Laithwait's ideas and wonder how anyone could take   
   >>> them seriously.  Unfortunately a lot of gullible (or ignorant) idiots   
   >>> did ...so a lot of money was wasted trying to pervert the laws of   
   >>> physics.   
   >>   
   >> The "laws of physcs" aren't fully settled. It's conceivable that some   
   >> accepted conservation principles may not be absolutely true.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> John Larkin   
   >> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center   
   >> Lunatic Fringe Electronics   
   >   
   >If a discrepancy in Newton's action=reaction is found, it will be   
   >something tiny, or we would have noticed it long ago. To propel   
   >vehicles we need something *big*.   
   >   
      
   Yes, slow and tiny, cosmology-level stuff.   
      
   Obviously energy is not conserved, because we came from somewhere.   
      
      
      
      
   >Laithwait went off the deep end. Pity, he seemed to be a capable   
   >engineer, It happens. Nikola Tesla and Linus Pauling did it too.   
   >   
   >Jeroen Belleman   
      
   John Larkin   
   Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center   
   Lunatic Fringe Electronics   
      
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