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   On 11/12/2025 20:19, John R Walliker wrote:   
   > On 11/12/2025 20:03, Don Y wrote:   
      
   >> Engineers get used to absolutes.  It's psychologically comforting   
   >> to be able to lean on some "hard numbers" to bolster your claims.   
   >> Consumers put little faith in those.  *Designing* for that market   
   >> is entirely different than for a regulated market or one where   
   >> the customer expects metrics to apply.  There, you don't want the   
   >> customer to remember any negative aspects of your product that   
   >> will discourage him from a repeat purchase.   
   >>   
   >> A "300 dB horn" just has to SOUND loud.  REALLY loud.   
   >   
   > How can companies compete fairly when their claims are so   
   > obviously made up?   
      
   It is the marketing and sales guys that are to blame.   
   Their job is to sell the product and get their sales bonus.   
      
   Lead time on our kit (~ 4 yr build time) was such that they   
   would have no hesitation in offering a product that would require   
   the repeal of one or more laws of physics. They would invariably have   
   moved on before the product was actually delivered.   
      
   Salesmen take their sales bonuses and run. It is up to scientists and   
   engineers to somehow deliver on what they have promised the customer.   
      
   > Why should I believe one impossible claim is better or worse than   
   > another impossible claim?   
   > John   
      
   Impossible claims that are beyond known laws of physics are worse.   
      
   Impossible claims that are difficult engineering but if made to work   
   would open entirely new frontiers are actually rather fun to work on.   
   If a bit of a white knuckle ride...   
      
   --   
   Martin Brown   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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