From: pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net   
      
   john larkin  wrote:   
   > On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 17:06:37 -0000 (UTC), "Don"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> john larkin wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-china-built-manhatt   
   n-project-141758929.html   
   >>>   
   >>> Lots of ebay stuff, I suspect.   
   >>   
   >> Completed in early 2025 and now undergoing testing, the   
   >> prototype fills nearly an entire factory floor. It was   
   >> built by a team of former engineers from Dutch   
   >> semiconductor giant ASML (ASML.AS), who reverse-   
   >> engineered the company's extreme ultraviolet   
   >> lithography machines or EUVs, according to two people   
   >> with knowledge of the project. ...   
   >>   
   >> In April, ASML CEO Christophe Fouquet said that China   
   >> would need "many, many years" to develop such technology.   
   >> But the existence of this prototype, reported by Reuters   
   >> for the first time, suggests China may be years closer   
   >> to achieving semiconductor independence than analysts   
   >> anticipated. ...   
   >>   
   >> "The aim is for China to eventually be able to make   
   >> advanced chips on machines that are entirely China-made,"   
   >> one of the people said. "China wants the United States   
   >> 100% kicked out of its supply chains." ...   
   >>   
   >>    
   >   
   > Thank you for the insights.   
      
   One sort of doubts that a Dutch or American court would fall for that   
   “reverse engineered”   
   bit.   
      
   Cheers   
      
   Phil Hobbs   
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