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   Message 141,846 of 143,326   
   Bill Sloman to Liz Tuddenham   
   Re: Chinese EUV   
   27 Dec 25 03:26:52   
   
   From: bill.sloman@ieee.org   
      
   On 26/12/2025 9:17 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:   
   > Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 26/12/2025 7:45 am, john larkin wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 09:08:07 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid   
   >>> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> john larkin  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 19:22:04 -0000 (UTC), "Don"  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Cursitor Doom wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-china-built-m   
   nhattan-project   
   >>>>>>>>> -141758929.html   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Lots of ebay stuff, I suspect.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Then once they're in a position to mass produce these chips, they'll   
   >>>>>>>> sell them or give them away to 'less responsible' countries. We need   
   >>>>>>>> to act fast; there's still just about enough time to nuke 'em.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Imagine making 3 nm chips on a tofu dreg machine.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      "Early on in World War II, Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring,   
   >>>>>>      one of Adolf Hitler's top lieutenants, said that Americans   
   >>>>>>      could only make refrigerators and razor blades-they would   
   >>>>>>      never be able to produce the military equipment and   
   >>>>>>      supplies necessary to defeat Nazi Germany."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>         
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      It is difficult to get a man to understand something when   
   >>>>>>      his salary depends on his not understanding it.   
   >>>>>>      - Upton Sinclair   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> At one point, Ford's Willow Run plant was finishing a B24 bomber every   
   >>>>> hour.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Mass production is fine for a stable product but in wartime the   
   >>>> requirements were changing so rapidly that the assembled aeroplanes had   
   >>>> to be dispersed to thousands of small workshops to have modifications   
   >>>> and extra items fitted.  I hope the US still has workshops like that   
   >>>> because the UK certainly doesn't.   
   >>>   
   >>> Bits of the Mosquito were built in wood shops all over England. Cool   
   >>> plane.   
   >>   
   >> Pity about the glue. In tropical climates fungi liked to eat it, and   
   >> some Mosquito's fell apart in midflight. The official story was that the   
   >> wings hadn't been properly glued together in the first case.   
   >   
   > One of my colleagues was a chemist who had developed the epoxy glues   
   > used in aircraft towards the end of WWII.   
      
   I got my Ph.D. in physical chemistry, but you couldn't get that far   
   without being taught about glues and bonding. The Mosquito was stuck   
   together with casein-formaldehyde wood adhesive.   
      
   Wood is essentially cellulose fibres stuck together with lignin, and my   
   father's collection of patents included some on the process of taking   
   the fibres apart so you could turn them into writing paper.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_glue   
      
   --   
   Bill Sloman, Sydney   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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