From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 15:26:48 -0700, Don Y   
    wrote:   
      
   >Sizes (and packaging) and interfaces.   
   >   
   >Aside from SSDs, it seems that the mobile/handheld market is largely   
   >driving FLASH development.   
   >   
   >There, capacity and small physical size seem to be the criteria.   
   >I suspect durability is probably low on the list.   
   >   
   >But, more importantly, it is targeted for use as a secondary medium;   
   >we don't see moves towards XIP (not easily supported with those   
   >interfaces).   
   >   
   >As such, durability is likely not as important.   
   >   
   >And, removability (replace-ability) has value.   
   >   
   >While I can solder-down "replaceable" packages, the other aspects   
   >of its targeted market seem to discourage that approach (users   
   >don't *invest* in flash devices but, rather, expect to be able to   
   >replace/upgrade them long before they wear out).   
   >   
   >Anyone using "raw" FLASH devices, in large "capacities", who can   
   >comment on the trends they are seeing in *that*/their market?   
      
   We use a Winbond 32 Mbit flash chip to run our Raspberry Pi RP2040   
   chips. It has enough storage for a couple of huge programs and a hefty   
   FPGA bit file.   
      
   https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/npkdfdb4shr2m2jokqa1l/X116_On_Pla   
   e.jpg?rlkey=negw6radsojplh0zso6gha2vb&raw=1   
      
      
   It costs 75 cents, same price as the CPU.   
      
   We still use USB hard drives as the monthly company backup. That's   
   about 1.5 Tbytes. Memory sticks are still more expensive.   
      
      
      
      
   John Larkin   
   Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center   
   Lunatic Fringe Electronics   
      
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