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|    =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Cai to Jan Panteltje    |
|    Re: Future FLASH directions    |
|    10 Jan 26 14:05:07    |
      From: thanks-to@Taf.com              Jan Panteltje schreef:       |---------------------------------------------------------|       |"The security one never spins down, is always recording."|       |---------------------------------------------------------|              Impressive!              Jan Panteltje schreef:       |----------------------------------------------------------------------|       |"[. . .] |       | |       |[. . .] do keep backups so.. no problem. |       |[. . .] |       | |       |[. . .]" |       |----------------------------------------------------------------------|              Dank u wel.              I try external USB media which failed for backups of many gigabytes       each.              |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|       |"What is your problem? Bad connectors? What make / model are you using?|       |[. . .] |       | |       |[. . .] |       |The Toshibas spin down after a short time if no data transfer to |       |those, so that may help longlivity [. . .]" |       |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|              We tried these failed external USB media with laptop/notebook       computers. Old laptops' computers' USB ports tend to stop       working. Such a problem might lead to not enough electricity being       provided by a USB port to a peripheral. Whatever the reasons, USB       flash sticks from various manufacturers and of various sizes (8GB and       much bigger) have a problem or a different problem: e.g. an 8GB stick       completely stopped working whereas a different problem which I       experience is FAT tables becoming corrupted so files are still there       but unhelpfully renamed. I back up many versions of a file, so on such       a USB thumb drive it is not easy to determine which version is which       version.              Each of these USB flash drive pens experienced no more than a few       hundred power cycles so way under a USB specification for longevity.              As for failed external USB hard disks . . .              We do not have many experiences with external USB hard disks. A then       workmate who is not a computer scientist used to then use a       misconfigured CentOS GNU/Linux installation on a laptop computer. He       is not at all at fault that it used to be misconfigured - such faults       are entirely faults of the inept administrator who is called Paulo       Alexandre Cunha Gomes who owns       NetStream - Consultadoria e Gestão de Redes Informáticas Lda,       Rua da Cidade de Fez Lt. 96, Nr. 25 Esq.,       3000-445 Coimbra,       Portugal.              This laptop computer is for simulations which almost fill up its       internal hard disk in a matter of hours. This external hard disk       failed almost the 1st time that this then workmate attempted to back       up onto this external hard disk. This failure upset him. He       incorrectly blamed himself. I told him that he is not at fault over       this failure.              Years later I myself used an external USB hard disk for the 1st       time. I paid 50 Euro for it (not 49.99 Euro - exactly 50 Euro). I used       it with a notebook computer or a laptop computer running Microsoft       Windows. This external drive came with an NTFS. A few days later files       on it became corrupted. In 2018 its filesystem used to be bad. Like       with USB flash drives' corrupted FAT filesystems, maybe an operating       system or a computer's provision of USB power is at fault.              On       Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:16:08 +0100 (CET)       I wrote this unanswered email to the company which sold me my failed       USB external hard disk:       ########################################################################       #"[. . .] #       # #       #I bought from you an external hard disk. Yesterday it has been #       #connected to a computer that it had not been connected to #       #before. Unfortunately the NTFS on it became corrupt yesterday. #       # #       #I ran ChkDsk as an administrator on Windows XP. ChkDsk of Windows XP #       #reported that e.g. more than 10 files are illegible and ChkDsk did not#       #repair this filesystem. #       # #       #I also attempted to access this disk on Windows 7 as an ordinary user #       #(I do not have access to an administrator account on Windows 7). #       # #       #When will you be able to repair this? #       # #       #[. . .]" #       ########################################################################              In 2018 during many days of a single run of ChkDsk, ChkDsk predicted       that it would take years to complete that run on that hard disk in the       corrupted state it used to suffer then.              (I used to use many distributions of GNU/Linux and many versions of       Microsoft Windows and one version of Apple MacOS with USB thumb       drives. An Apple did not destroy them.              I use only Microsoft Windows with external USB hard disks. An       ex-workmate used CentOS with an external USB hard disk when it       failed.)              As for external hard disks which did not fail . . .              I have a WD Elements SE "one terabyte" USB "Portable hard drive" and       another WD Elements hard drive. They are not from the aforementioned       shop. They are not from NetStream - Consultadoria e Gestão de Redes       Informáticas Lda. I cautiously do not power them much because I do not       want repetitions of our external-hard-disk misadventures. I do not yet       detect a problem with these WD Elements drives.              (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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