From: jrwalliker@gmail.com   
      
   On 21/01/2026 22:00, Don Y wrote:   
   > On 1/21/2026 11:11 AM, Edward Rawde wrote:   
   >   
   >> I'm not sure what you're trying to do but I use PuTTY for command line   
   >> and https://winscp.net/eng/index.php for file access over various   
   >> protocols.   
   >   
   > The maligned Xmanager suite includes an X server (used to access   
   > my *BSD and Solaris boxen), graphical FTP client (so I can copy from   
   > one file/FTP/NFS/SMB server to another file/FTP/NFS/SMB server),   
   > telnet/ssh client (though MDI) and lpd service (usually only needed   
   > for oddball devices as I try to set up native interfaces on   
   > the UN*X boxen).   
   >   
   > IO tend to move LARGE groups of files -- large in number and in size.   
   > E.g., I've moved 12T in the past several days.   
   >   
   > Doing so, a server often closes the control connection while moving   
   > data so the client has to reopen the connection and REASSERT THE   
   > SAME OPTIONS that were previously in effect.  Otherwise, it's   
   > APPEARANCE of continuing is illusory -- subsequent transfers   
   > aren't done under the same conditions as earlier ones.   
   >   
   > Or, the UI will become unresponsive (perhaps a single-threaded   
   > implementation with upcalls to the GUI and when running balls   
   > out, not enough time to service the interface AND the GUI?   
   >   
   > Or, it will act like it is still moving data and I can visibly see   
   > the server(s) are idle.   
   >   
   > I.e., it's a shitty piece of code.   
   >   
   > Given that the TELNET/SSH client is also less desireable than   
   > e.g., PuTTY, the only thing the "suite" had going for it was   
   > lpd -- which isn't particularly useful to me.   
   >   
   > [Suites tend to integrate things -- I could initiate a file transfer   
   > from within a TELNET session, etc.]   
   >   
   > Beyond Compare gives me a graphical FTP client as a side-effect   
   > of its normal functionality.  (and, seems to do so reliably -- one   
   > of the most well-crafter examples of a multithreaded desktop   
   > application that I've encountered!)   
   >   
   > But, that's *all* it gives me (in terms of the needs addressed above)   
   >   
   > wget and other command line tools are annoying to use as they   
   > require scripting -- something I don't mess with on Windows   
   > platforms as there is little value to THAT skillset.   
   >   
   > And, rsync on a windows client would be ineffective.  How would it   
   > store a local copy of makefile, Makefile and ClassX::Method5.cpp?   
   > You can come up with substitutions -- but, then tools can't   
   > correlate "THIS" with "that"   
   >   
   > Eschew Windows.   
   >   
      
   For file transfers have a look at sftp.  It looks like ftp but works   
   much better in most situations.   
   John   
      
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