From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 05:44:06 GMT, Jan Panteltje    
   wrote:   
      
   >>Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk>wrote:   
   >>>On 22/01/2026 15:42, Jan Panteltje wrote:   
   >>>> Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>>> On 22/01/2026 6:58 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:   
   >>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>>> The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex   
   >>>>>> chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can   
   >>>>>> drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals   
   >>>>>> apart.   
   >>   
   >>Deep sea volcanic vents are another possibility for the origin of life.   
   >>   
   >>>>> What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical   
   processes did lead to   
   >>>>> a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more   
   >>>> about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite   
   >>>> a few human lifetimes to get there.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And what else is possible?   
   >>>>> We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe   
   where such incredible things happen   
   >>>>> And we are all connected.   
   >>>>> We, like an ant in the garden...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> An ant in  the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a   
   >>>> much greater extent than we do, so it's not a  good example.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ment as an indicating of size versus world they (we live in).   
   >>> We have a big bigger brain.. and know a bit more.   
   >>> But then who will survive longer ?   
   >>> Some insects have been shown to survice in free space outside the ISS.   
   >>> Those insects did not even know how to make space-suits ;-)   
   >>   
   >>Tardigrades are not quite arthropods or insects - they are much older   
   >>and more primitive. Incredibly resilient in their dormant 'tun' state.   
   >>   
   >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade   
   >   
   >Nice article, It also says this:   
   > In 2019, a capsule containing tardigrades in a cryptobiotic state was on   
   board the Israeli lunar lander Beresheet which crashed on the Moon.[24]   
   >   
   >   
   >So, apart from moon-dust the next moon travellers  will have Tardigrades to   
   watch out for? Or for dinner?   
   >There is some water / ice I have read near the Moon's poles?   
   >That Artemis mission is on the launch-pad now...   
   >Will it work?   
   >   
      
   Does it make any sense?   
      
      
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