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   =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Cai to John Levine   
   Re: Excel and accountants, good post on    
   01 Feb 26 02:13:37   
   
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   From: thanks-to@Taf.com   
      
   In sci.electronics.design John Levine  wrote:   
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   |"[. . .] In my                                                               |   
   |experience, any Excel spreadsheet large enough to be interesting has bugs.   |   
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   |Back in the 1980s I worked on a financial modeling package called Javelin.   |   
   |You could use it for a lot of the financial stuff people do in spreadsheets  |   
   |(Lotus 1-2-3 at the time.) The models were a lot more structured and it      |   
   |was far easier to audit them and check that they did what you expected.      |   
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   |Users didn't care, they loved their spreadsheets.  Best quote: "It's up to my|   
   |boss to check if my speadsheets are right.""                                 |   
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   Oh dear, another example of ineptness triumphing over technical   
   goodness.   
      
   I repeatedly complain to an R user which is an Excel user via   
   quotations like so: "languages like PHP and Mathematica are still   
   heedless to variable misspellings; [. . .] reversing bad design   
   decisions, is often impossible once there is a community of users. The   
   shortcomings of Perl, PHP, CSS, JavaScript, etc, are going to persist   
   [. . .] JavaScript, Perl, PHP, Excel [. . .] having little type   
   safety" says   
   Harold Thimbleby, "Heedless programming: ignoring detectable error is   
   a widespread hazard", "Software: Practice and Experience"   
   and   
   "R crashes" says   
   HTTPS://CRAN.R-Project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#Lexical-scoping   
   "missing or incorrect code in R" says   
   HTTPS://CRAN.R-Project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#Others   
   "errors later in the code" says   
   HTTPS://CRAN.R-Project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#Why-do-my-matrices   
   lose-dimensions_003f   
   "About 148,000,000 results" says   
   HTTPS://RSeek.org   
   concerning crash   
   "I find that my R session crashes very often, at random times for   
   random reasons" says   
   HTTPS://StackOverFlow.com/questions/35318760/how-to-recover-rstu   
   io-session-after-crash   
   "Session is abruptly aborted as soon as a data.frame is defined with   
   no error code being printed, except of course; "R encountered a fatal   
   error. The session was terminated"." says   
   HTTPS://community.RStudio.com/t/rstudio-crashes-when-defining-da   
   a-frame-in-version-2023-09-1-or-newer/179120   
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