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   "bitrex"  wrote in message news:6980f6d6$7$19$   
   82e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...   
   > On 2/2/2026 6:38 AM, Don Y wrote:   
   >> Not sure I really believe that...   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> But, do imagine all of the "low hanging fruit" will disappear.   
   >> Which will likely include most entry level positions.   
   >>   
   >> I don't think folks have thought this through, completely. Entry   
   >> level jobs do more than bring folks up to speed on the technology   
   >> and their job rolls. But, also, how an organization works and   
   >> expectations that must be met (even those that aren't spelled   
   >> out in an employee handbook).   
   >   
   > Today's GPT experiment:   
   >   
      
   It still can't do the following problem and Grok also gets it wrong.   
   If you paste the whole thing into Google it does give the correct answer but I   
   don't like the method.   
      
   An ideal operational amplifier (op amp) is powered from +15V and -15V rails.   
   The non-inverting input of the op amp is grounded.   
   The inverting input of the op amp has a 20k ohm resistor R4 connected to the   
   output of the op amp.   
   The inverting input of the op amp is also connected to a 10k ohm resistor R3.   
   The other end of R3 is connected to the junction of two further resistors R1   
   and R2.   
   R1 and R2 are both 20k ohm.   
   R1 has its other end connected to a +12V voltage source.   
   R2 has its other end connected to ground.   
   What is the op amp output voltage?   
      
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