From: wwm@wwmartin.net   
      
   On 2/3/26 09:47, Phil Hobbs wrote:   
   > john larkin  wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 16:23:54 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> john larkin  wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 18:29:58 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> john larkin  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 11:58:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:09:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Approximately 2% of all Russian men aged 20-50 may have been killed   
   or   
   >>>>>>>>>> seriously wounded by Ukrainians, many with smart drones.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The r/u casuality ratio is over 2:1 and likely increasing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_duri   
   g_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Why dio so many people sympathize with genocidal thugs?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> tramp is, among many more bad and evil things, a genocidel thug who   
   >>>>>>>>> killed thousands in Gaza by supplying arms to the religious   
   >>>>>>>>> fanatic YouWitz sect   
   >>>>>>>>> Killed people in Venezuela   
   >>>>>>>>> killed people in boats   
   >>>>>>>>> Killed US people in Minnesota   
   >>>>>>>>> Probably had Epstein killed so he would not talk about his sex   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> He wants to do the same in Iran now, wants to kill Cubans, invade   
   >>>>>>>>> Cuba, steals oil just like double you you bushman did in   
   >>>>>>>>> Iraq   
   >>>>>>>>> What a bunch of crap 'merrica has become   
   >>>>>>>>> World may unload its radioactive waste on those divided states any   
   >>>>>>>>> time now, the doomsday clock is making noises.   
   >>>>>>>>> tramp ape has no respect for anything but maybe a gun on - or a   
   bullet   
   >>>>>>>>> through the empty bubble mounted above his shoulders.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ego maniac nutcase he is.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And the more stupid the 'leader' the more the simple minded follow   
   >>>>>>>>> him: Youws and 'Adam did it with Eve' reciters.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The best thing Cuba could do for its people is start a war with the US   
   >>>>>>>> and lose. Of course,  the communist party is dumb, but not that dumb.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> John Larkin   
   >>>>>>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center   
   >>>>>>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONFIRM YOU ARE BRAINDEAD   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Has your keyboard died? Caps lock stuck? Or still using a Teletype?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I mean, it worked for Grand Fenwick.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Cheers   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Phil Hobbs   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You youngsters can't remember the joy of getting a high speed paper   
   >>>> tape reader.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> John Larkin   
   >>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center   
   >>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, I did use one, writing a program for an original Data General Nova   
   >>> for an undergrad physics lab, circa 1978   
   >>   
   >> What language?   
   >>   
   > Fortran, iirc. To save machine time, Wolf Breuer The Lab Guy set it up to   
   > run split core, so that we could run two or maybe four people’s programs at   
   > once, and I expect that having multiple copies of the Basic interpreter   
   > probably wouldn’t fit in RAM.   
   >>   
   >> None of the minicomputer companies survived.   
   >   
   > Well, DEC became part of Compaq, and then the Fiorina HP, which if you call   
   > that survival.   
   >   
   Uh-oh, now you've done it. Mentioned the "unmentionable"! Well, I can't   
   complain too loudly, I survived the era.   
   >>   
   >> I had a PDP-8 (4K words of 12-bit core memory) that ran Focal, an   
   >> intrepretive language. I used it to simulate the throttle control and   
   >> propulsion system, including hull dynamics, of the 32,000 horsepower   
   >> LASH ships. I plotted the step responses on the Teletype. We showed it   
   >> to the owners and got the job.   
   >>   
   >> Other engineers said that I couldn't use simple rectangular   
   >> integration, that I had to use some runga-kuta math or something. But   
   >> the elements of the control system were mostly unilateral, and simple   
   >> integration will even work in a circuit if the steps are small.   
   >   
   > SPICE uses trapezoidal, which is the same order as rectangular.   
   >   
   > But the advice wasn’t altogether stupid. The usual fourth-order Runge-Kutta   
   > algorithm has faster convergence on smooth solutions, is pretty simple to   
   > code, and is self-starting like rectangular.   
   >   
   > Its main warts are that it’s slower than predictor-corrector or   
   > Bulirsch-Stoer, and that it supplies no internal error estimate.  Sixth and   
   > higher orders do supply that, but I’ve never coded them.   
   >   
   > Cheers   
   >   
   > Phil Hobbs   
   >   
      
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