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   Message 142,572 of 143,326   
   Jeroen Belleman to Bill Sloman   
   Re: Real world impact of Taiwan-China "f   
   06 Feb 26 15:50:04   
   
   From: jeroen@nospam.please   
      
   On 2/6/26 14:21, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   > On 6/02/2026 8:26 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:   
   >> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 6/02/2026 1:52 am, Liz Tuddenham wrote:   
   >>>> Don Y  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I fully expect this to happen during Trump's administration.   
   >>>>> He probably realizes he won't be able to do anything about it,   
   >>>>> especially after his designs on other foreign countries and   
   >>>>> alienation of his main allies.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ["No, you haven't been ATTACKED by China so Article 5 doesn't   
   >>>>> require us to come to your aid..."]   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Of course, more and more manufacturing is TRYING to be on-shored.   
   >>>>> But, I suspect that is nowhere near enough to address the   
   >>>>> potential of Taiwan going off-line -- even briefly.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm thinking back to how screwed up the supply chain got during   
   >>>>> COVID and wonder what manufacturers and investors will do when   
   >>>>> the future is far less certain than a "pandemic".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Opinions?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> We have sleepwalked into this and the few who have raised the alarm   
   >>>> have   
   >>>> been (and still are being) ignored and ridiculed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There is a wider problem: we have become 'travel junkies' and rely too   
   >>>> much on transport.  "I can get it cheaper from..." doesn't take into   
   >>>> account the hidden costs such as liability to supply disruption,   
   >>>> loss of   
   >>>> control over the design and the fundamental need to teach underlying   
   >>>> principles and train people in making things themselves.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> We haven't got the factories.   
   >>>> We haven't got the machines.   
   >>>> We haven't got the people who know how to operste the machines.   
   >>>> We haven't got the machines to make the machines.   
   >>>> We haven't got the people who know how to make the machines   
   >>>> We haven't got the material.   
   >>>> We haven't got the undustry to make the materials.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In the thrall of Greenwash we have simply exported the 'dirty' jobs to   
   >>>> other countries and then added to the pollution by shipping the goods   
   >>>> back.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If Russia could do to the UK what it is doing to Ukraine, the country   
   >>>> would have to surrender within a week.   
   >>>   
   >>> If the UK ignored the fact that it has it's own nuclear weapons and the   
   >>> means to deliver them.   
   >>   
   >> Has it?  I thought they were dependent on the U.S. for delivery.   
   >   
   > The ballistic missiles were manufactured in the US, but they do seem to   
   > be under UK control. The proposition that the US engineered in secret   
   > backdoors to let them disable the weapons if they were pointed at a   
   > target that the US hadn't approved is one that every conspiracy theory   
   > nut would bring forward, but UK military security is even deeper into   
   > daft conspiracy theories than internet lunatics.   
      
   Everything is software-controlled these days. If you thought that   
   thoroughly checking the source code for backdoors will protect you,   
   you should read this:   
   "Reflections on trusting trust", by Ken thompson   
      
      
   You'll never trust a compiler again.   
      
   Jeroen Belleman   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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