From: jl@glen--canyon.com
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 19:37:50 -0500, Joe Gwinn
wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 15:44:49 -0800, john larkin
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 18:17:31 -0500, Joe Gwinn
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 23:35:39 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2/6/26 22:22, Joe Gwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 17:43:13 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/6/26 15:50, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/6/26 14:21, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/02/2026 8:26 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/02/2026 1:52 am, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Don Y wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I fully expect this to happen during Trump's administration.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He probably realizes he won't be able to do anything about it,
>>>>>>>>>>>> especially after his designs on other foreign countries and
>>>>>>>>>>>> alienation of his main allies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ["No, you haven't been ATTACKED by China so Article 5 doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> require us to come to your aid..."]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, more and more manufacturing is TRYING to be on-shored.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But, I suspect that is nowhere near enough to address the
>>>>>>>>>>>> potential of Taiwan going off-line -- even briefly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking back to how screwed up the supply chain got during
>>>>>>>>>>>> COVID and wonder what manufacturers and investors will do when
>>>>>>>>>>>> the future is far less certain than a "pandemic".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have sleepwalked into this and the few who have raised the alarm
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> been (and still are being) ignored and ridiculed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a wider problem: we have become 'travel junkies' and rely
too
>>>>>>>>>>> much on transport. "I can get it cheaper from..." doesn't take
into
>>>>>>>>>>> account the hidden costs such as liability to supply disruption,
>>>>>>>>>>> loss of
>>>>>>>>>>> control over the design and the fundamental need to teach
underlying
>>>>>>>>>>> principles and train people in making things themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't got the factories.
>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't got the machines.
>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't got the people who know how to operste the machines.
>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't got the machines to make the machines.
>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't got the people who know how to make the machines
>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't got the material.
>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't got the undustry to make the materials.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the thrall of Greenwash we have simply exported the 'dirty'
jobs to
>>>>>>>>>>> other countries and then added to the pollution by shipping the
goods
>>>>>>>>>>> back.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If Russia could do to the UK what it is doing to Ukraine, the
country
>>>>>>>>>>> would have to surrender within a week.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If the UK ignored the fact that it has it's own nuclear weapons and
the
>>>>>>>>>> means to deliver them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has it? I thought they were dependent on the U.S. for delivery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ballistic missiles were manufactured in the US, but they do seem
>>>>>>>> to be under UK control. The proposition that the US engineered in
>>>>>>>> secret backdoors to let them disable the weapons if they were pointed
>>>>>>>> at a target that the US hadn't approved is one that every conspiracy
>>>>>>>> theory nut would bring forward, but UK military security is even
>>>>>>>> deeper into daft conspiracy theories than internet lunatics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything is software-controlled these days. If you thought that
>>>>>>> thoroughly checking the source code for backdoors will protect you,
>>>>>>> you should read this:
>>>>>>> "Reflections on trusting trust", by Ken thompson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'll never trust a compiler again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a classic reference, never refuted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is more background:
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for following up on myself. I just read that text again and
>>>>>> noticed that Ken refers to some obscure US airforce document
>>>>>> where he first learned of this trick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I a conspiracy nut for thinking that, if it ever comes to an
>>>>>> armed conflict with the US, all those F35s they sold us would
>>>>>> just drop out of the sky?
>>>>>
>>>>> One reason is to prevent one's own weapons being used against one by
>>>>> the winner of a revolution who inherited a military.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> We'd better buy Saab or Dassault!
>>>>>
>>>>> All that does is change who the master shall be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>That last point is true, of course, in the general case,
>>>>but I intended it to refer to the current rogue. Sweden
>>>>and France are still reliable allies. The US, not so much.
>>>
>>>The current rogues will not live forever, and their replacements may
>>>or may not be better.
>>>
>>>France is 5.7% of NATO, and Sweden is far smaller.
>>>
>>>Ukraine has caused the scales to fall from many eyes.
>>>
>>>Joe
>>
>>
>>If they had indeed taken Kyiv in five days, what would the Russians
>>want next? Great Rus' all over again.
>>
>>They can have Alaska. The food's not very good.
>
>Don't eat the minerals?
>
>Joe
I had a girlfriend in Juneau. It was one of those relationships where
only the airlines come out ahead.
"There's a woman behind every tree, and he nearest tree is 1200 miles
away."
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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