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   Message 142,748 of 143,326   
   john larkin to Lodder   
   Re: energy and mass   
   13 Feb 26 15:24:55   
   
   XPost: sci.physics.relativity   
   From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 23:40:25 +0100, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.   
   Lodder) wrote:   
      
   >Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 12/02/2026 9:39 am, john larkin wrote:   
   >> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 23:09:43 +0100, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.   
   >> > Lodder) wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> john larkin  wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >>> Why are physics types so often insulting and obnoxious?   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Their big big problem is their inability to suffer fools gladly.   
   >> >   
   >> > Linked to their enthusiasm to call people fools.   
   >>   
   >> I can't say I've ever noticed that. Pointing out that somebody hasn't   
   >> taken an effect into account that they should have known about isn't   
   >> actually calling them foolish, though it can come close.   
   >>   
   >> >>> I've been to physics meetings that shocked me with their brutality.   
   >> >>> That mentality is terrible for brainstorming and inventing things.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> They are professionals amongst themselves. They can take it.   
   >> >> Brutality is what keeps the brainstorming in check,   
   >> >   
   >> > For sure.   
   >>   
   >> You don't brainstorm at scientific meetings. You do it in a more   
   >> cooperative environment where you try to find a new angle of attack on   
   >> problem that doesn't seem to have an obvious solution.   
   >   
   >IMHO brainstorming is much overrated.   
   >It may be useful in 'creative' environments,   
   >when for example inventing a new ad campaign   
   >to sell yet another useless product to the suckers.   
   >   
   >In a serious environment, in engineering or science,   
   >there is litle room or need for it.   
      
   It sure works for us. The first stages of a new design involve   
   brainstorming and deliberate confusion for a while.   
      
   Sometimes even an intern will make an observation, or ask a question,   
   that leads to something big.   
      
   >   
   >High level professionals already know their stuff,   
   >and the likelyhood of instantly coming up with something   
   >that nobody has thought up yet is small.   
      
   Not small at all. Searching a basically infinite solution space, it's   
   common to be stuck in a routine local minima.   
      
   A little nonsense now and then   
   Is cherished by the wisest men.   
      
   - Willy Wonka   
      
      
   John Larkin   
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