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   Message 142,919 of 143,102   
   Bill Sloman to Ross Finlayson   
   Re: energy and mass (1/2)   
   20 Feb 26 18:45:16   
   
   XPost: sci.physics.relativity   
   From: bill.sloman@ieee.org   
      
   On 20/02/2026 10:48 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > On 02/19/2026 11:19 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >> On 20/02/2026 2:44 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>> On 02/19/2026 01:45 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>> On 19/02/2026 6:13 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>> On 02/18/2026 11:06 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 02/17/2026 08:35 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 18/02/2026 5:37 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 02/17/2026 09:47 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 02/17/2026 03:49 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You forgot about the everlasting tinfoil hats...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> These days they call it "EMF shielding". Or "off-grid".   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes, by stupid people.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> F'up2 sci.physics   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Oh, it's well-known that exposure to high-intensity   
   >>>>>>>> radio waves has observable and demonstrable physiological   
   >>>>>>>> effects,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If you put your head in a microwave your brain will get cooked.   
   >>>>>>> Some unfortunate radar technicians got bits of their brains   
   >>>>>>> warmed up   
   >>>>>>> enough to do observable damage   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> some have that for example the various post-natal   
   >>>>>>>> development syndromes since the 90's are highly correlated   
   >>>>>>>> to it ambiently, about a perceived reasoning for a   
   >>>>>>>> "Clean, and Quiet, Air Act", where the "Clean Air Act"   
   >>>>>>>> was a set of regulatory legislation that can definitely   
   >>>>>>>> be related to improved outcomes (in health and life).   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Bad statisticians are good at confusing correlation with causation.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> A simple "death ray" can be fabricated for about $15.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So what.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The surface, as it may be, electromagnetic waves   
   >>>>>>>> in the brain, are yet only that, and matters of   
   >>>>>>>> resonance theory and as well the redundant sorts   
   >>>>>>>> of aspects of the brain as electro-chemical soup,   
   >>>>>>>> make that many usual accounts of electroencephalograms   
   >>>>>>>> are about as advanced scientifically as "Scientologists'".   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The brain has a lot of electro-chemical structure, but the   
   >>>>>>> electrical   
   >>>>>>> activity is slow and the associated electromagnetic waves would have   
   >>>>>>> enormous wavelengths.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If there are electromagnetic resonances inside the skull they'd   
   >>>>>>> be at   
   >>>>>>> frequencies way above anything the nervous system could react to   
   >>>>>>> electro-chemically, and the electrical resistance of electrically   
   >>>>>>> conducting body fluids would damp them heavily.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Any suggestion that anything beyond warming up the tissues   
   >>>>>>> involved is   
   >>>>>>> going on is a silly as scientology.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Electro-encephlograms are observed at the outside surface of the   
   >>>>>>> skull,   
   >>>>>>> and don't resolve activity at the level of individual nerves. It's   
   >>>>>>> rather like monitoring the activity in a city by looking at traffic   
   >>>>>>> density on the motorways.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Epilepsy research and simple modern apparatus mass-produced   
   >>>>>> in the cellular phone factor platform, may make for that   
   >>>>>> modern neuroscience makes a lot of wild claims.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The resonance and tuning of radio circuits, including technologies   
   >>>>>> like heterodyne and synchrodyne, then about old-fashioned   
   >>>>>> pseudo-science   
   >>>>>> like biorhythms, can be quite personalized.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Claims of the DOD Polygraph Institute about the detection of   
   >>>>>> veracity or lack thereof are common.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That mean old looking Regenstrief or Riegenstrieff Institute,   
   >>>>>> you'll notice buried among your phone settings many avisos   
   >>>>>> about health related impacts of technology.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The "research" related privacy laws are very self-contradictory.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That "Neurotourist" is a good little book,   
   >>>>> often the researchers interviewed were   
   >>>>> self-assured assholes with an un-founded God complex   
   >>>>> and myopic confirmation bias.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There are quite a few of them around, but researchers as a population   
   >>>> are no worse than the rest of humanity.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> The Alpha Beta Gamma Delta waves or brain waves have   
   >>>>> various ways to interpret them, basically about the   
   >>>>> linear/non-linear and short/long wave.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> None of which seem to be remotely useful.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Resonance theory about things like molecular chemistry   
   >>>>> and, you know, magnetic monopoles, is widely employed   
   >>>>> in medical imaging and the like.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It certainly wasn't when I was involved in ultrasound imaging from 1976   
   >>>> to 1979. The X-ray and the nuclear magnetic resonance medical imaging   
   >>>> people weren't exactly interested in "resonance theory" either.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Magnetic monopoles were hypothesised by Paul Dirac in 1931.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_monopole   
   >>>>   
   >>>> People have been looking for them ever since, but they don't seem to   
   >>>> exist.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> If radios are un-healthy, then also LED lights are bad for you.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why would you think that? Light emitting diodes are excited by direct   
   >>>> current. There's usually an inverter/rectifier somewhere in their power   
   >>>> supply to deliver lots of current into the low voltage drop across the   
   >>>> LED, but they tended to be pretty well shielded (which isn't hard to   
   >>>> do).   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> LEDs should have a warning label "do not stare into LED".   
   >>   
   >> Powerful ones do.   
   >>   
   >>> They damage retinas. There are various LED technologies.   
   >>>   
   >>> You know, like the old, "microwave oven in use" signs.   
   >>   
   >> Never seen one. Domestic microwave ovens are well shielded.   
   >>   
   >>> The "resonance" in "nuclear magnetic resonance" is   
   >>> "resonance theory's".   
   >>   
   >> Only in the sense that some nuclei have a magnetic moment. If you bash   
   >> them at the right frequency in the right magnetic field you can get the   
   >> magnetic pole rotating at that frequency. There no fancy resonance   
   >> theory involved.   
   >>   
   >>> "Structural" or "molecular" chemistry is another example   
   >>> involving resonance theory, like "organic" chemistry,   
   >>> "resonant bonds".   
   >>   
   >> I've got a Ph.D., in chemistry and while we got lectures on nuclear   
   >> magnetic resonance, there was no fancy resonance theory involved in that   
   >> either.   
   >>   
   >> "Resonant bonds" are just a bizarre way of describing de-localised   
   >> electronic bonds. Benzene has six carbon atoms arranged in a flat   
      
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