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|    20 Feb 26 15:30:32    |
      From: thanks-to@Taf.com              Persons wrote in news:sci.electronics.design -       |------------------------------------------------------------------------|       |"American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks |       |upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall |       |short is equally unpopular. |       |> |       |> I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.|       |> |       |Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English. |       |You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can |       |understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles." |       |------------------------------------------------------------------------|              Is it a myth that "Road Warrior" has subtitles in American English,       where "Road Warrior" is the 1st version of "Mad Max 2: Road Warrior"       in cinemas in the United States of America (where it had not been       presented as a sequel to "Mad Max", which supposedly had not yet been       released in the U.S.A.)?              It is not a myth that I in the West did watch English subtitles on TV       of a non-"Road-Warrior" video of a man speaking in Australian       English. These subtitles are for all viewers (i.e. not just persons       who cannot easily hear). They are not for a comedic effect.              A teacher in the United States of America wrote to the SciFraud       LISTSERV (Discussion of Fraud in Science):       |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|       |"Dewey, |       | I feel bad that I put you in a not-so-cheerful mood. Some explanation is |       |necessary. |       | |       | >What are you trying to state, or imply, in this message? That you |       |caved in to parental pressure, and GAVE a mediocre student an "A" grade?< |       | |       | I was threatened and intimidated by these people. Despite what I value as |       |a strong sense of integrity, I was going to give the girl an A. I have a |       |family to support. I mentioned that story to point out that I was prepared to|       |fudge the grade for my own self-preservation and that the existence of |       |conditions which would actually favor the parent in this situation, should |       |not exist. It has become so common for parents to browbeat teachers, with the|       |support of their local school boards, that most teachers wouldn't dare to |       |challenge the system by setting standards which would make them stick out |       |like a sore thumb. |       | When I first started teaching, I heard a principal challenging a teacher |       |because his students got almost all A's and B's in his classes. About ten |       |years later, I heard a principal criticize a teacher for giving too many D's |       |in a gifted and talented class. This was the consequence of parental |       |pressure. Times had changed quickly. Two years ago, I asked the principal why|       |a legal absence is given to a student who took four days extra vacation and |       |didn't even have the required note prior to the absence. He responded by |       |telling me the absence was legal because he said so. These things happen |       |constantly. When students start their summer vacations two or three days |       |before the end of the school year, we are specifically instructed to |       |calculate the student's grade on the basis of the work possible as of the |       |time of the student's departure. No extra work has to be submitted. |       | So yes, as a matter of confession, and one of which I am not proud, I was |       |afraid to give the student anything but an A when the parents threatened to |       |have my job. For two years, our principal published grade stats by |       |department, making sure to commend those with the highest grades for being |       |the most successful teachers. He announced at a parent back-to-school meeting|       |that the goal for the year was "success for all students at all times." I was|       |probably the only teacher who really listened to this and I was extremely |       |stressed out at the implications of how such a thing could be achieved. |       | My story was not to support the notion of grade inflation. I was, in a |       |self-effacing way, pointing out how I, as a teacher, have been a victim of |       |the trend. Furthermore, I know that the principal has the authority to order |       |me to change a grade or suffer disciplinary action for insubordination, |       |ultimately ending with his authority to change the grade anyway. (BTW, this |       |wasn't a high schooler, it was a sixth grader in Technology Education, |       |formerly Industrial Arts.) What I didn't say is that the student's B was |       |largely due to the fact that she had not completed a major project. After I |       |got roasted and was clearing out the room after students had left for the |       |summer, I found the part of the girl's project which had been missing. She |       |had put it in the wrong place. One simple step now, and the project was |       |finished. The missing part was an assembly which constituted most of the |       |work. Fortunately, I didn't have to lie about her grade, but I am pretty sure|       |I would have. |       | |       |>And that their current difficulties must be the fault of the |       |university professor--because they KNOW that they are "A" students. Because |       |their high school teachers said so.< |       | |       | The girl was an excellent student. She had always made straight A's. I |       |know this doesn't mean as much as some would like it to. I also know that my |       |subject can often be inconsistent with other grades, either to the student's |       |advantage OR disadvantage. Most parents realize how different my subject is, |       |especially for 6th graders, and usually accept that as an explanation for an |       |unexpected grade. Some students are successful in school, not so much because|       |of their raw intellectual ability, but more because of their ability to |       |conform and anticipate. The methods and activities in my subject do not |              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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