XPost: sci.physics.relativity   
   From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl   
      
   Bill Sloman  wrote:   
      
   > On 23/02/2026 5:38 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   [-]   
   > > I mostly see Spinoza as an echo of Duns Scotus,   
   > > then though the "men are natural enemies" I don't get,   
   > > sort of like that Calvinism is disagreeable.   
   >   
   > Jonathon Israel got very interested in Spinoza and points out that a lot   
   > of Roman Catholic theologians got very interested in Spinoza and spent a   
   > century or so trying to prove him wrong. I don't think that Duns Scotus   
   > generated anything like as much interest.   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Israel   
      
   You might also like Steven Nadler on Spinoza,   
   and why he was so controversial, then and still.   
   "A Book Forged In Hell".   
   Theologians of various kinds were not merely 'interested'.   
      
   [-]   
   > Greek philosophy was great at getting hold of the wrong end of the stick.   
      
   Ah, you have the right end?   
      
   Jan   
      
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