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   Gerhard Hoffmann to All   
   Re: Negative Supply Rejection Sucks   
   24 Feb 26 09:59:25   
   
   From: dk4xp@arcor.de   
      
   Am 24.02.26 um 04:16 schrieb john larkin:   
      
      
   > Yes. We couldn't compare the FPGA to an external delay line (they   
   > aren't very good) so we'd need a clever (and affordable) way to   
   > compare a prop delay to a clock.   
      
   I've built a switchable delay line from a reel of semi rigid coax,   
   heaps of SMA connectors and 3 pairs/stages of 1-to-6 coax relays.   
   The 1-to-6 relays were surprisingly cheap at ham radio meetings,   
   there exist not many apps for them.   
      
   The delay line could bring anything between 4 and 100 MHz into   
   phase quadrature for phase noise measurements.   
   It was a lot of work soldering SMAs, verifying / trimming cable   
   lengths on the TDR and packing everything into a 19" crate.   
      
   Exactly when I was done, I got hold of a Time Pod that could   
   do everything with 20 dB better pn resolution thanks to cross   
   correlation.   
      
   > Of course, every time you compile an FPGA design it may change the   
   > routing radically.   
      
   Back in Xilinx XC3020 times, a friend did his FPGA design   
   barefoot with the XACT editor by hand and he locked down every   
   connection and transmission gate. He ran out of luck when the next   
   chip delivery showed better but different timings.   
      
   He is a chip broker now.   
      
   Cheers,  Gerhard   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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