From: trevor@rageaudio.com.au   
      
   On 18/05/2023 9:42 am, John Robertson wrote:   
   > On 2023/05/09 11:45 a.m., Peter W. wrote:   
   >> Apply some logic:   
   >>   
   >> a) Native Americas and children of slaves were not given opportunities   
   >> for education, training, mortgages, nor many of the other means to   
   >> accumulate wealth as were whites of any origin. It took Harry Truman   
   >> to integrate the Military as one single example. The last "Indian   
   >> School" was closed in 1969, as another.   
   >> b) Accordingly, the cumulative effect of wealth-gathering was denied   
   >> to them as a race, as a class, as a group.   
   >> c) Today, as a race, class or group, they are still suffering from   
   >> that denial with (generally) poorer education, fewer opportunities,   
   >> reduced health, and much more.   
   >> d) So, there is a 500 year history of everything from direct   
   >> oppression to complete indifference to overcome.   
   >>   
   >> And, guess what? The entire "white" race continues to be enriched by   
   >> this.   
   >>   
   >> Neither of my parents spoke English as a first language. But they were   
   >> both University educated, white, and ambitious. They left their   
   >> children with excellent educations, no debt, and a strong sense of   
   >> mutual obligation to the 'social contract' that sustains all of us. We   
   >> have given our children excellent educations, left them with no debt,   
   >> and they are doing the same for theirs. BUT - we have, between the   
   >> four families, five houses, all paid for, 9 degrees, solid incomes,   
   >> assured retirements, and much more. Did I mention, no debt!   
   >>   
   >> How much do you thing that applies to any random native American or   
   >> child of slavery?   
   >>   
   >> I do not agree with reparations in terms of cash payments. But, fer   
   >> crissakes, the oppression, indifference and results of that oppression   
   >> and indifference are acutely visible to this day. Something must and   
   >> should be done - but short of a complete attitude transplant, in a   
   >> world where 25% - 30 % of the American population adores the Orange   
   >> Toad, this is  unlikely.   
   >>   
   >> Peter Wieck   
   >> Melrose Park, PA   
   >   
   > Thanks for saying the above.   
   >   
   > Political systems are responsible for the actions of their predecessors   
   > for as long as the political system has been in continuous existence.   
   >   
   > Thus in Canada we try to make reparations to those wronged by previous   
   > governments and hold Truth and Reconciliation councils.   
   >   
   > Our federal and provincial governments were aware of the situation in   
   > first nations reserves and did next to nothing. A federal health officer   
   > tried to get the federal parliament to pay attention to the death rate   
   > and poverty back in 1910 and was pensioned off and spent some of his   
   > last years on Parliament Hill handing out leaflets to people to try and   
   > get people to look into this tragedy.   
   >   
   > Everyone involved in this fiasco is long dead, but our federal   
   > government (and most provincial governments) has accepted responsibility   
   > for the actions of previous legal governments and is doing what it can   
   > to change how things are done here.   
   >   
   > That is how adults deal with past errors.   
   >   
   > John   
      
   **Indeed. Much the same occurs/has occurred here in Australia with our   
   indigenous population. We are well behind Canada and the US in   
   addressing the wrongs perpetrated by the invaders.   
      
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