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|    Peter W. to All    |
|    Re: What do you look for in a portable b    |
|    05 Jul 23 10:24:50    |
      From: peterwieck33@gmail.com              OK - the typical heated CPAP device will consume 100 watts per hour if       heated. I am going for the extreme case for safety.              a) Assume you will use it 8 hours per day, for three days.        b) Assume a 10% self-discharge rate for (3.3% per day).       c) Assume that you will want 200% of necessary capacity - that is, discharge       the back-up device to no lower than 50% to avoid damage to the batteries.               3 x 8 x 100 x 2 = 4,800 watts.              Allowing for losses, and self-discharge as-noted. You will need a device       capable of supplying 48 amp-hours at 120 VAC.               Without redundancy (dangerous). your typical 1500 watt UPS will operate at       roughly 3 hours per 100 watts, without damage, and run in the $500 - $700       range.        You will need eight (8) of them to meet your most basic need. And have to       change them twice (2x) per night. Or, you could spend $3,500 for a single unit       that could run for all of eight hours at 100watts.               Get a generator. Be wise in your fuel selection. You will have four (4)       choices:       a) Gasoline: Gasoline generators are amongst the cheapest of options, and even       a relatively small one will run all critical functions in the typical       household including your refrigerator, some lights and the CPAP. It will burn       something on the order of 1.       3 gallons of fuel per hour. So, you will need to store 30+ gallons of fuel       on-site, and fill it as needed. At night. Or 94 gallons and run it 24/7.       Gasoline devices tend to be either large, powerful and noisy, or small, quiet       and low power. Anywhere from        $400 - $1,000 will get you there. No transfer switch, strictly a manual       device.        c) Diesel fuel: This would be a whole house device, and if installed with the       proper transfer switch, and with a large tank, you could get up to a week with       such a device. But they are not cheap. You would start around $1,500 without       installation or a        transfer-switch. So, figure $3,500 absolute minimum installed. And that would       be for a Chinese-origin device. A decent Kohler device would be about $4,500       installed.        d) Natural gas: If you have a reliable source of natural gas - about the same       installed cost as a diesel - and no fuel limits. By far, the cleanest, lowest       maintenance option, and least expensive to operate.        e) Propane: As above, but you would need a large propane tank with the       associated issues.               The issue with medical devices is that one does not want to screw around with       'good enough' - as that 3-day issue might turn into a 4 or 8 day issue.              Peter Wieck       Melrose Park, PA              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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