XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: bobnospam@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/14/2023 12:23 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:   
   > On 7/14/23 2:38 PM, Ed P wrote:   
   >> On 7/14/2023 2:30 PM, micky wrote:   
   >>> DVD can't be read, what to do?   
   >>>   
   >>> Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD.  Two or 3 years ago,   
   >>> occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio   
   >>> first tries to read the map.  I would either stop and start the car, or   
   >>> later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always   
   >>> worked the 2nd time.  (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.)   
   >>>   
   >>> Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush!  Used 2 or 3   
   >>> times. Didn't help.   
   >>>   
   >>> Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when   
   >>> new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one.  Didn't help.   
   >>>   
   >>> Both map DVDs look pristine.  No fingerprints, not even old ones that   
   >>> have been wiped away.   
   >>>   
   >>> In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the   
   >>> 2nd time every time.  Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And   
   >>> today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work   
   >>> right at all.   
   >>>   
   >>> I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for   
   >>> each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and   
   >>> always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***.   
   >>>   
   >>> A couple strange things, never happened before today:  1) Start of the   
   >>> day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10   
   >>> seconds every time.  Changing volume, for which there is a knob   
   >>> (although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds.   
   >>> Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10   
   >>> seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds.  This delay phenomenon   
   >>> never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading   
   >>> the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it?   (Once the radio   
   >>> was on a station, the radio worked fine.)   
   >>>             2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a   
   quadrilateral   
   >>> to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and   
   >>> blank.  But driving didn't move the map.  ****Or maybe all the time. Sun   
   >>> was very bright.   
   >>>   
   >>> How do I fix this?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> If you want navigation, buy a Garmin.  Cheaper than any service call   
   >> for repairing the DVD unit.   
   >>   
   > Yeah, I've got one that I bought many years ago for $89 at Sam's Club.   
   > It has lifetime free quarterly downloadable updates from Garmin for   
   > maps, points of interest and operating software.   
   >   
   > OTOH, the Nav in my Toyota Avalon Limited runs off a mini SD card and   
   > there hasn't had been an update available for years. The dealer wanted   
   > $170 to install the one released about two years after I bought the car.   
   > But slick talker that I am, I convinced them that the sales deal   
   > included one free update.   
   >   
   > In-car Nav, like SiriusXM satellite radio, is on the down-slope because   
   > so many folks now buy unlimited cellular data plans and they just stream   
   > directions and music from their phone through the car's 17-speaker audio   
   > system.   
   >   
      
   Google maps and others can download the latest "offline" maps so you   
   don't need to use any data on the road, and still have functionality   
   when no signal is available.   
      
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