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   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   When a cellphone is a hotspot and it streams web-radio to a real radio   
   (in this case the car radio) is there any feedback from the radio to the   
   cellphone or the app that is running?   Would the app know if I had   
   turned the radio off, or changed input so it was no longer detecting and   
   playing the cellphone signal?   
      
   It seems very unlikely to me, but I can't keep up with new advances in   
   tech.   And it would account for what seems to be happening.   
      
   Specifically, I listen to CNN or MSNBC on the Tunein app and it streams,   
   is that the right word, through the car radio.  The free version of   
   Tunein is free but you pay by having to listen to mannnny commercials.   
      
   One in particular annoys me.  It's a commercial for Aramco.  A feel-good   
   ad using a woman's mellifluous voice, talking in cliches about the   
   future, etc.  They don't mention its full name, Saudi Aramco, or that   
   its majority owner is Saudi Arabia.  SA seems to have decided it wants   
   to improve its image, after the murder of Adnan Khashoggi and   
   allegations of war crimes in Yemen, and they seem to be starting with   
   Aramco.   
      
   Tunein has a practice of running the same commercial over and over and   
   over, several times an hour all day long.   If one listens to broadcast   
   tv or radio, different programs have their own set of commericals, so   
   they change as the day goes on, and it's not annoying, but Tunein plays   
   the same ones all the time.  And in many cases it plays the same one   
   several times an hour. The Aramco commercial runs 5 or 6 times an hour.   
   And it's part of a series of ads that take 3 or 4 minutes, maybe longer.   
      
   So in the car, I used to change to FM while waiting for the ads to end,   
   and then I'd forget and listen to FM for 10 or 20 minutes, and when I   
   went back to Tunein, it is almost always in the middle of another Aramco   
   commercial.   Yesterday this happened 4 times in a row, one break and   
   then another 4 times.   
      
   So now I'm starting to wonder if it could be the same commercial, that   
   was on pause while I was listening to FM???   Or while the radio was off   
   altogether??  Is that possible?  That the app knew the signal was not   
   beling played through the radio?  Finally I've taken to turning down the   
   volume so I don't hear it. The app certainly doesn't know ablut that,   
   and it seems to work, or must it be my imagination?   
      
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