XPost: alt.home.repair, sci.eletctronics.design, rec.autos.tech   
   From: void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid   
      
   On 25/07/2023 11:04, micky wrote:   
   > When a cellphone is a hotspot and it streams web-radio to a real radio   
   > (in this case the car radio) is there any feedback from the radio to the   
   > cellphone or the app that is running?   Would the app know if I had   
   > turned the radio off, or changed input so it was no longer detecting and   
   > playing the cellphone signal?   
      
   A real radio doesn't connect to a hotspot. It receives radio signals.   
   So what are you talking about?   
      
   Hotspot usually refers to a Wi-Fi hotspot.   
      
   Perhaps the "real" radio is an internet radio?   
      
   If so it's up to the software or app running in the "real" radio what it   
   sends back.   
      
   ON the other hand perhaps you are referring to a bluetooth connection   
   from the phone to the "real" radio which is acting as a Bluetooth speaker?   
      
   In that case the app in the phone may stop or pause when the "real"   
   radio disconnects, or it may not.   
      
      
   > It seems very unlikely to me, but I can't keep up with new advances in   
   > tech.   And it would account for what seems to be happening.   
   >   
   > Specifically, I listen to CNN or MSNBC on the Tunein app and it streams,   
   > is that the right word, through the car radio.  The free version of   
   > Tunein is free but you pay by having to listen to mannnny commercials.   
   >   
   > One in particular annoys me.  It's a commercial for Aramco.  A feel-good   
   > ad using a woman's mellifluous voice, talking in cliches about the   
   > future, etc.  They don't mention its full name, Saudi Aramco, or that   
   > its majority owner is Saudi Arabia.  SA seems to have decided it wants   
   > to improve its image, after the murder of Adnan Khashoggi and   
   > allegations of war crimes in Yemen, and they seem to be starting with   
   > Aramco.   
      
   Adnan Khashoggi is, as far as I know fine. Perhaps you mean his nephew   
   Jamal?   
      
      
   > Tunein has a practice of running the same commercial over and over and   
   > over, several times an hour all day long.   If one listens to broadcast   
   > tv or radio, different programs have their own set of commericals, so   
   > they change as the day goes on, and it's not annoying, but Tunein plays   
   > the same ones all the time.  And in many cases it plays the same one   
   > several times an hour. The Aramco commercial runs 5 or 6 times an hour.   
   > And it's part of a series of ads that take 3 or 4 minutes, maybe longer.   
   >   
   > So in the car, I used to change to FM while waiting for the ads to end,   
   > and then I'd forget and listen to FM for 10 or 20 minutes, and when I   
   > went back to Tunein, it is almost always in the middle of another Aramco   
   > commercial.   Yesterday this happened 4 times in a row, one break and   
   > then another 4 times.   
   >   
   > So now I'm starting to wonder if it could be the same commercial, that   
   > was on pause while I was listening to FM???   Or while the radio was off   
   > altogether??  Is that possible?  That the app knew the signal was not   
   > beling played through the radio?  Finally I've taken to turning down the   
   > volume so I don't hear it. The app certainly doesn't know ablut that,   
   > and it seems to work, or must it be my imagination?   
      
      
   What radio station are you listening to using Tunein Radio?   
   As far as I know Tunein don't add their own commercials, except maybe at   
   the beginning immediately after you choose and start playing a radio   
   station, though it's difficult to tell, some of the stations do that too.   
      
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