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|    Stan Brown to micky    |
|    Re: Is it AI or not    |
|    11 Aug 23 10:09:23    |
      XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.home.repair       From: the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm              On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:43:42 -0400, micky wrote:       > They have computer programs that will "look" at, examine, x-rays etc.       > and find medical problems, sometimes ones that the radiologist misses.       >       > So it's good if both look them.       >       > But is it AI? Seems to me it one slightly complicated algorith and       > comes nowhere close to AI. The Turing test for example.       >              An algorithm would be programmed by some (presumably) human       programmer as, essentially, a list of rules to follow.              AI (old name: neural networks) is trained by being given a huge stack       of photographs that radiologists have previously examined and       pronounced "yes" or "no". The neural net makes guesses about whether       each picture is a "yes" or a "no", and somehow learns from its       mistakes, so that over time its accuracy becomes better and better.              While the training is simple in principle: pathways in the neural       network that led to a correct result are given a boost and those that       led to an incorrect response are depressed -- in practice the result       is so complex that nobody can determine what caused the NN to reach a       particular decision in a particular case.              Or, at least, that's how I understand it. A NN product was offered by       the company I used to work for, and the programmer explained it to me       that way. Nothing I've seen has told me it's different in principle       now, though I believe much bigger computers are being used, and with       most of the Internet as a training set. But does anybody know exactly       why an AI would answer questions like "Who holds the world speed       record for walking across the English Channel" with specific name,       date, and time? I don't think so.              --       Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/       Shikata ga nai...              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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