XPost: alt.home.repair, sci.electronics.design   
   From: bobnospam@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/24/2023 8:11 AM, micky wrote:   
   > In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:44:48 -0700, Bob F   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 9/23/2023 11:44 PM, micky wrote:   
   >>> In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 23:43:05 -0400, micky   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> In sci.electronics.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 13:42:01 -0400, micky   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the   
   >>>>> problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Maybe it's okay for music. I haven't listened to much music, but for   
   >>>>> talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some   
   >>>>> sort of muffle. I don't have this problem with 5 other table radios.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of   
   >>>>> music to "talk". I didnt' hear any change.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time, I've   
   >>>>> lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top one to the   
   >>>>> max, and the one in between almost to the max. This helped at first,   
   >>>>> but future changes were smaller and I didn't see addtional help.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder, but   
   >>>>> then it's louder than I want.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Is there an audio ng that's not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio   
   >>>> and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm trying to connect my wifi radio to a regular radio with bluetooth.   
   >>>> The Grace wifi radio doesn't find the Sangrean wr-22, even though it has   
   >>>> found my laptop, even though the laptop has never been on and closer   
   >>>> than 40+ feet from the Wifi radio. And it later found something called   
   >>>> [LG]webOSnnnnnnn which must be in my neighbor's house.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But not the Sangrean which only 12 inches above the Wifi.   
   >>>   
   >>> I let it try for hours, but the Grace wifi never found the Sangrean.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Is there any chance Grace wifi radio knows how to find headphones, but   
   >>>> not another wifi radio????   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The owners manual only mentions headphones but I took that to be becuase   
   >>>> that's the standard device and my problem was not foreseen. The   
   >>>> Sangrean works fine when receiving audio from Alexa. Connects very   
   >>>> easily and quickly.   
   >>>   
   >>> If I can't connect by bluetooth, there is a Line Out on the Grace and a   
   >>> Aux In on the Sangrean. Both Stereo**. Are those of the same   
   >>> amplitude? Will that work? The Aux In says connect, for example, an   
   >>> iPod, MP3 or CD player. Are their outputs like Line Out would be?   
   >>   
   >> Line out outputs tend to be a fixed output level, not affected by the   
   >> volume control. The volume resulting at the receiving device may be at a   
   >> different level than the receiving device default, but the volume   
   >> control should adjust for that unless the receiving device expects a   
   >> significantly different level. The headphone output would allow the   
   >> outputting device volume to be adjusted if the line outs are not   
   >> compatible for some reason. If the output is too high for the inputting   
   >> device, distortion will result.   
   >>   
   >> I would use the line out as my first choice.   
   >   
   > OKay. I like that better because the jacks are in the back.   
   >   
   > Even though the fidelity of $8 earbuds can't be that good, I tried them   
   > last night in the headphone jack, but they have a 2.5mm plug to fit a   
   > cell phone and it's a 3.5 mm jack. Plus it's TRRR instead of TRR,   
   > because of the mike it has. Iirc that is still supposed to work if the   
   > plug fit.   
   >>   
   >> You really should talk to the seller of your device about replacing it   
   >> with one that actually works or refunding your money..   
   >   
   > I guess I'm afraid they'll send me another one that's no better than   
   > this.   
      
   If you keep interacting with them, and don't bother to say they sound   
   like crap so they can actually help you with the problem, then that   
   would probably be an appropriate response.   
      
   >   
   > After I've gone to the work of shipping the first one back and putting   
   > the new one in its place, both of which would have been pretty easy 2   
   > years ago but now seem like tiring acts.   
   >   
   > Also I think it would be easier to get them to send a new one after I   
   > tell them how much effort I put in to get this one to work. This stuff   
   > doesn't seem tiring because it fulfills my curiosity too.   
   >   
   >>> There also a 3.5mm mini headphone jack on the sending radio. Would that   
   >>> be better than Line Out.   
   >>>   
   >>> **Even though the Sangrean has only one speaker, it has a stereo Aux In   
   >>> jack. Do you think that means L and R are merged in the radio?   
   >>   
   >> Probably.   
   >   
   > I hope so.   
   >   
   > BTW, I remembered last night that I have another bluetooth radio, also   
   > by Sangean, in the bathroom, and I tried to pair it with the Grace radio   
   > this morning and it was easy. So I don't know why I can't pair the   
   > bedroom Sangean, especially since I can easily with Alexa, and I   
   > unplugged Alexa. It's not just that I can't pair it, the bedroom   
   > Sangrean doesn't even show up on the Grace wifi list of bluetooth   
   > sources.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Or can I merge the left and right channels just by buying the right   
   >>> Y-cable? Is there a name for that?   
      
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