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   Roger Hayter to Dan Purgert   
   Re: Re (2): USB functionality.   
   12 Mar 24 19:31:32   
   
   From: roger@hayter.org   
      
   On 12 Mar 2024 at 19:27:04 GMT, "Dan Purgert"  wrote:   
      
   > On 2024-03-12, Roger Hayter wrote:   
   >> On 12 Mar 2024 at 16:29:31 GMT, "peter@easthope.ca"    
   wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> In article <2219572717.2fe80b82@uninhabited.net>, Roger Hayter   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>> But can even USB-C accept a signal input (keyboard and mouse for   
   >>>> instance) and unrelated signal output (audio for instance) on the   
   >>>> same physical socket? I ask only out of curiosity.   
   >>>   
   >>> The setup is rarely tried.  Appears that nobody can reply.   
   >>>   
   >>> A keyboard or mouse sends tiny amounts of data; a few bytes per   
   >>> second. In principle the link should be able to fit that in without   
   >>> significant drop-outs in audio output.  WIth so many details involved,   
   >>> a general answer is difficult. When all else fails, we can test and   
   >>> see what happens.  =8~)   
   >>>   
   >>> Regards,             ... P.   
   >>   
   >> So you could use an overarching protocol which was bilateral (ethernet   
   >> anyone?) and send and separate messages both ways.  What I was aksing was   
   >> whether within the USB protocol there was provision for using some pins in   
   for   
   >> one electrical signal (bi or uni-directional) and other pins for another   
   >> electrical signal. Because that would be the only way to do it without   
   special   
   >> software on at least one of the devices.   
   >>   
   >   
   > There's only one set of pins (well, two sets if you count USB2 / USB3 --   
   > but you can only use one set at a time).   
   >   
   > USB2 -> D+/D- (Bi-directional / Half Duplex)   
   > USB3 -> TX1+/TX1- and RX2+/RX2- (optionally Full Duplex, IIRC)   
   >   
   > As I recall the "Tx" pair is "Host Transmit to Peripheral", and "Rx" is   
   > "Host Receive from Peripheral", but it's been a while since I read up on   
   > the USB3 / USB-C implementations.   
      
   Usbc seems to have about 20 pins, that's why I asked.   
      
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   Roger Hayter   
      
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