XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:58:11 -0500, Clare Snyder   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:31:38 -0500, Retirednoguilt   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 11/22/2024 8:57 PM, micky wrote:   
   >>> My Philips DVDR3575H just stopped working.  It's a DVDR with an over the   
   >>> air tuner and a HDD.  I figured the HDD would fail and soon after I   
   >>> bought it I found on a video forum instructions for installing a new   
   >>> one.   
   >>>   
   >>> But instead, the whole thing went dead. Worked yesterday and two or 3   
   >>> short power failures today. Now nothing displays. I had found the DVD   
   >>> tray open (because I run it from another roomy and don't know when I   
   >>> press the wrong button) but it went in fine when I pushed it. Doesn't it   
   >>> have to be working a little for tray to go in?  Maybe it's the display   
   >>> that has broken?   I checked the outlet and a lamp plugged into he same   
   >>> place works fine.   The owners manual says nothing about a fuse.  Any   
   >>> chance ther is one anyhow, and somehow the power failure blew it?   
   >>>   
   >>> It's all wired in and hard to disconnect, especially the little red bug   
   >>> that's stuck to the IR input. And if there is no chance of fixing this,   
   >>> I'll just buy something else and tranfeer the wires, instead of   
   >>> disconnecting them and confusing myself.   
   >>>   
   >>> This is 15 years old and I recorded 2 or 3  hours of video a day every   
   >>> day for most of its life, then played the 2 or 3 hours, plus I left it   
   >>> on when watching tv live, and often when I was't even using it.  You can   
   >>> see why I thought the HDD would fail.  Yet I don't think that could be   
   >>> the problem today.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>I was able to find and download the service manual for this item at:   
   >>   
   >>https://elektrotanya.com/philips_dvdr3570h_dvdr3590h_ver.1.4.p   
   f/download.html#dl   
      
   Thanks.  Very helpful.   
   >>   
   >>Your browser/pdf reader of choice may be able to translate the text into   
   >>English.   
      
   The Japanese part?  I don't think so. But almost all is in Engish.   
   That's just the guy who sent it in wanting credit for himself and maybe   
   his company.   
      
   > The schematics and block diagrams are located fair far down in   
   >>the manual.  It appears that there are separate analog and digital power   
   >>supplies.  That might explain why the tray still opens/closes (analog   
   >>power supply working) but nothing else (they probably are powered by the   
   >>digital power supply).  I didn't see any fuses but the circuity is   
   >>extensive, lots of pin connectors separating the connections, and I may   
   >>have missed something.   
   >>   
   >>Your decision of course how much it's worth in time, effort and $$ to   
   >>disconnect the device, open the case, and look for a fuse.  This appears   
      
   It's worth endless effort, assuming I have some chance of success.   
      
   >>to be a very complicated conglomeration of multiple circuit boards using   
   >>many ICs etc.  Well beyond my experience and knowledge to suggest   
   >>anything additional. Personally, it sounds like an appropriate activity   
   >>for a fully retired person.  Nothing to lose.  You can't break it!  It's   
   >>already not functioning.  You can prossibly find a replacement on ebay.   
      
   A few years after I got this, I looked for another because I knew this   
   would fail someday, and there were only 1 or 2 alternatives DVDR's with   
   Hardrive, and one was $600 and even it had some4thing I didn't like.   
      
   This week, when I first looked on ebay, before posting here, I found   
   they were no selling for 30 to 70 dollars, on ebay. Whoopee.  But one of   
   he ebay models I found on Amazon complete with a video review in which   
   he pointed out that one could not play one recording while watching a   
   different recording. That's pretty important.  At least I do it all the   
   time.   
      
   Going back to ebay, this time I searched on Philips and found a whole   
   bunch of things I hadn't found before, including 9, count 'em, 9   
   versions of just what I have now, ranging from a real auction that has   
   now 5 more days to run but started at $15.  Seveal are listed as Tested,   
   but only 4 of the 9 have remotes, and the box itself only has 5 buttons.   
   There is not much one can do, or test, without the remote.  But even the   
   ones that have remotes, am I to think they tested everything?  maybe   
   must that it turned on and the screen said Playing and Record (two of   
   the 5 buttons) and the DVD drawer opend (one more of the 5 buttons.  A   
   fourth is Power and the fifst is Stop.)  Did they even connect a TV to   
   see if something was coming out the other end?   They all promise in the   
   standards for Used that it works completely, but they can't even change   
   channels without the remote.  So they assume it works but I'll have to   
   ship it back if it doesn't.   
   >   
      
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