XPost: alt.home.repair
From: orca@noise.msm
Bob F wrote:
> On 11/24/2024 8:29 AM, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:58:11 -0500, Clare Snyder
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:31:38 -0500, Retirednoguilt
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/22/2024 8:57 PM, micky wrote:
>>>>> My Philips DVDR3575H just stopped working. It's a DVDR with an over the
>>>>> air tuner and a HDD. I figured the HDD would fail and soon after I
>>>>> bought it I found on a video forum instructions for installing a new
>>>>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>> But instead, the whole thing went dead. Worked yesterday and two or 3
>>>>> short power failures today. Now nothing displays. I had found the DVD
>>>>> tray open (because I run it from another roomy and don't know when I
>>>>> press the wrong button) but it went in fine when I pushed it. Doesn't it
>>>>> have to be working a little for tray to go in? Maybe it's the display
>>>>> that has broken? I checked the outlet and a lamp plugged into he same
>>>>> place works fine. The owners manual says nothing about a fuse. Any
>>>>> chance ther is one anyhow, and somehow the power failure blew it?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's all wired in and hard to disconnect, especially the little red bug
>>>>> that's stuck to the IR input. And if there is no chance of fixing this,
>>>>> I'll just buy something else and tranfeer the wires, instead of
>>>>> disconnecting them and confusing myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is 15 years old and I recorded 2 or 3 hours of video a day every
>>>>> day for most of its life, then played the 2 or 3 hours, plus I left it
>>>>> on when watching tv live, and often when I was't even using it. You can
>>>>> see why I thought the HDD would fail. Yet I don't think that could be
>>>>> the problem today.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was able to find and download the service manual for this item at:
>>>>
>>>> https://elektrotanya.com/philips_dvdr3570h_dvdr3590h_ver.1.
.pdf/download.html#dl
>>
>> Thanks. Very helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Your browser/pdf reader of choice may be able to translate the text into
>>>> English.
>>
>> The Japanese part? I don't think so. But almost all is in Engish.
>> That's just the guy who sent it in wanting credit for himself and maybe
>> his company.
>>
>>> The schematics and block diagrams are located fair far down in
>>>> the manual. It appears that there are separate analog and digital power
>>>> supplies. That might explain why the tray still opens/closes (analog
>>>> power supply working) but nothing else (they probably are powered by the
>>>> digital power supply). I didn't see any fuses but the circuity is
>>>> extensive, lots of pin connectors separating the connections, and I may
>>>> have missed something.
>>>>
>>>> Your decision of course how much it's worth in time, effort and $$ to
>>>> disconnect the device, open the case, and look for a fuse. This appears
>>
>> It's worth endless effort, assuming I have some chance of success.
>>
>>>> to be a very complicated conglomeration of multiple circuit boards using
>>>> many ICs etc. Well beyond my experience and knowledge to suggest
>>>> anything additional. Personally, it sounds like an appropriate activity
>>>> for a fully retired person. Nothing to lose. You can't break it!
It's
>>>> already not functioning. You can prossibly find a replacement on ebay.
>>
>> A few years after I got this, I looked for another because I knew this
>> would fail someday, and there were only 1 or 2 alternatives DVDR's with
>> Hardrive, and one was $600 and even it had some4thing I didn't like.
>>
>> This week, when I first looked on ebay, before posting here, I found
>> they were no selling for 30 to 70 dollars, on ebay. Whoopee. But one of
>> he ebay models I found on Amazon complete with a video review in which
>> he pointed out that one could not play one recording while watching a
>> different recording. That's pretty important. At least I do it all the
>> time.
>>
>> Going back to ebay, this time I searched on Philips and found a whole
>> bunch of things I hadn't found before, including 9, count 'em, 9
>> versions of just what I have now, ranging from a real auction that has
>> now 5 more days to run but started at $15. Seveal are listed as Tested,
>> but only 4 of the 9 have remotes, and the box itself only has 5 buttons.
>> There is not much one can do, or test, without the remote. But even the
>> ones that have remotes, am I to think they tested everything? maybe
>> must that it turned on and the screen said Playing and Record (two of
>> the 5 buttons) and the DVD drawer opend (one more of the 5 buttons. A
>> fourth is Power and the fifst is Stop.) Did they even connect a TV to
>> see if something was coming out the other end? They all promise in the
>> standards for Used that it works completely, but they can't even change
>> channels without the remote. So they assume it works but I'll have to
>> ship it back if it doesn't.
>>>
>
> I record everything I watch on TV using a tuner card in my desktop PC or
network attached tuner boxes (HDHOMERUN), and appropriate software
> (SAGETV), and outputting from my PC video card to the hdmi input on the TV
or through a FireTV box. If the TV is off, the PC scheduler turns it
> on for scheduled shows.
I've got a pair of FLEX 4K receivers that pick up 15 ATSC3 channels but 7 of
those are DRM protected so no longer usable.
Makes me wonder how long before broadcasters shut off ATSC1, effectively
killing the DVR.
--- SoupGate-DOS v1.05
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