XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Nov 24 11:15:57 UTC, Orca Winfrey   
    wrote:   
      
   >   
   >>> Going back to ebay, this time I searched on Philips and found a whole   
   >>> bunch of things I hadn't found before, including 9, count 'em, 9   
   >>> versions of just what I have now, ranging from a real auction that has   
   >>> now 5 more days to run but started at $15.  Seveal are listed as Tested,   
   >>> but only 4 of the 9 have remotes, and the box itself only has 5 buttons.   
   >>> There is not much one can do, or test, without the remote.  But even the   
   >>> ones that have remotes, am I to think they tested everything?  maybe   
   >>> must that it turned on and the screen said Playing and Record (two of   
   >>> the 5 buttons) and the DVD drawer opend (one more of the 5 buttons.  A   
   >>> fourth is Power and the fifst is Stop.)  Did they even connect a TV to   
   >>> see if something was coming out the other end?   They all promise in the   
   >>> standards for Used that it works completely, but they can't even change   
   >>> channels without the remote.  So they assume it works but I'll have to   
   >>> ship it back if it doesn't.   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >> I record everything I watch on TV using a tuner card in my desktop PC or   
   network attached tuner boxes (HDHOMERUN), and appropriate software   
   >> (SAGETV), and outputting from my PC video card to the hdmi input on the TV   
   or through a FireTV box. If the TV is off, the PC scheduler turns it   
   >> on for scheduled shows.   
   >   
   >I've got a pair of FLEX 4K receivers that pick up 15 ATSC3 channels but 7 of   
   those are DRM protected so no longer usable.   
   >Makes me wonder how long before broadcasters shut off ATSC1, effectively   
   killing the DVR.   
      
   The current rule is that some time in spring of 2028 they will be   
   allowed to stop transmitting atsc1, but they left open that they may   
   change the rule, which I assume means delay it longer.   
      
   There still are a lot of cities where there is no atsc3, and more   
   importantly, it's not backward compatible, so they will either have 300   
   million obsolete tvs or they'll have to have another converter box   
   giveaway.   
      
   I came across a youtube channel by the antennaman or antenna man. Easy   
   to find in youtube.   He's clear, easy to watch, concise, not bloated,   
   and he has one among many where he talks about atsc3.   
      
   I've  thought about this a bit before buying a new 15-year old dvdr, but   
   I'm going by my usual rule, to assume nothing will ever change until   
   after I'm dead, say 2052.  By then even my new old dvdr will have   
   failed.   
      
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