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   Cursitor Doom to jeroen@nospam.please   
   Re: Francophones (1/2)   
   21 Dec 24 21:07:43   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.design   
   From: cd@notformail.com   
      
   On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 21:31:51 +0100, Jeroen Belleman   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 12/21/24 14:57, Cursitor Doom wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 08:57:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid   
   >> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Cursitor Doom  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 00:05:08 +0100, Jeroen Belleman   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 12/20/24 22:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 19:32:14 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid   
   >>>>>> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Cursitor Doom  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Do we have any French speakers on the Panel? I have a radio that's   
   >>>>>>>> badly in need of realignment and the only instructions I can find are   
   >>>>>>>> a set in French. I can't use Google translate because they've used too   
   >>>>>>>> many abbreviations in the text and they won't parse any sense.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm not a particularly fluent French speaker, but I could probably sort   
   >>>>>>> out some technical instructions in French   If you want to send them to   
   >>>>>>> me, I'll have a go (you should be able to work out my e-mail address).   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Many thanks indeed for your kind offer. I suspect it will probably   
   >>>>>> require a native French speaker to decypher, but who knows?  :-)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm not a native French speaker, but I may be able to help anyway.   
   >>>>> Fire away.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Well that's interesing as I had did think you might respond given some   
   >>>> of the background you've revealed here in the past. I don't have the   
   >>>> relevant page here right now, but will make it available tomorrow. It   
   >>>> is only the one page and only one column of that, so nothing too   
   >>>> onerous. I did show it to a genuine French chum of mine a few weeks   
   >>>> ago, but he was stumped by the technical side of it and couldn't   
   >>>> assist much, unfortunately. So it appears it needs someone who can   
   >>>> speak French fluently *and* understands the process of radio   
   >>>> alignment. I kind of guessed that might be you....   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Many years ago Practical Wireless published an article about the French   
   >>> 819-line high-definition television service which had been translated   
   >>>from French by someone who knew nothing about television or radio   
   >>> terminologyy.  It was hilarious nonsense but I eventually managed to   
   >>> translate it back into French so that I could understand it.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you post your text here, we can all have a go at it.   
   >>   
   >> Sorry for the delay; took a bit of tracking down but I have it now:   
   >>   
   >> https://disk.yandex.com/i/3SiZ6rN_k-fP4w   
   >>   
   >> It's only page 1 that needs the translation - and of that, in   
   >> particular the abbreviated bits. I haven't read French since I was in   
   >> school about a hundred years ago, so it's all Dutch to me. :-)   
   >   
   >   
   >This was translated from German into French by someone who also   
   >did not know clearly what it all meant. Not everything makes   
   >perfect sense.   
   >   
   >Also, while it doesn't say so, many of the adjustments interact,   
   >so you may have to go back and forth a few times. Anyway, here   
   >goes.   
   >   
   >Jeroen Belleman   
   >   
   >   
   >===============================================================   
   >   
   >-- DC current adjustments (for 9V supply)   
   >    - Adjustment of the push-pull audio stage:   
   >    Cut the solder bridge marked -x- in the collector trace of the   
   >    AC188 T11 and insert a current meter. Adjust R410 for 6.5mA.   
   >    Restore the bridge.   
   >    - Adjustment of the IF amplifier:   
   >    Set R515 to obtain 1.35V across T4's emitter resistor R518.   
   >   
   >-- Adjustment of the FM-IF stages. The radio should be set to "FM".   
   >    Connect a wobbulator centered on 10.7MHz at MP5 and the diode   
   >    detector shown at ZF VII (I think...) MP6. Detune ZF VIII (a).   
   >    Then tune ZFVII (b) for a symmetrical maximum response.   
   >    - Inject signal at MP3 and tune ZF VI (c) and ZF V (d) for   
   >    symmetrical maximum response.   
   >    - Inject signal on MP2 and adjust ZF IV (e) and ZF III (f) for   
   >    symmetrical maximum response.   
   >    - Inject a weakly coupled signal at the mixer (MP1?) and adjust   
   >    ZF II (g) and ZF I (h) for symmetrical maximum response.   
   >    - Discriminator: Inject signal at MP5, with a level low   
   >    enough that no limiting occurs in the IF strip. Observe the   
   >    signal at MP11 (audio amplifier input) with load impedance 50k.   
   >    Adjust ZF VIII (a) for symmetrical response.   
   >   
   >-- Adjustment of the AM IF (460kHz) stages. The radio should be   
   >    set to "PO" (AM, 560-1450kHz). Connect a measurement instrument   
   >    at MP4 (Weakly coupled).   
   >    - Inject a wobbulator signal at MP3 and adjust ZF XIII and ZF XII   
   >    for symmetrical maximum response.   
   >    - Inject signal at MP8 and adjust ZF XI for symmetrical maximum   
   >    response.   
   >    - Inject signal at MP7 and adjust ZF X and ZF IX for symmetrical   
   >    maximum response.   
   >   
   >-- Adjustment of local oscillator and AM input. For short and   
   >    medium wave, couple signal into the ferrite rod antenna using   
   >    the frame. For short wave, remove the rod antenna and couple   
   >    signal at the antenna connection through 15pF.   
   >    Tune to 560kHz and adjust (1) and (3) for maximum response.   
   >    Mixer sensitivity 13uV and oscillator output 60-90mV.   
   >    Tune to 1450 kHz and adjust (2) and (4) for maximum response.   
   >    - Set the radio to GO (Long wave, 160-240kHz).   
   >    Tune to 160kHz and adjust (5) and (6) for maximum response.   
   >    Mixer sensitivity 13uV and oscillator output 65-95mV.   
   >    - Set the radio to OC (Short wave, 6.5-15MHz)   
   >    Tune to 6.5MHz and adjust (8) and (10) for maximum response.   
   >    Tune to 15MHz and adjust (9) and (11) for maximum response.   
   >    Mixer sensitivity 5uV and oscillator output 35-90mV.   
   >   
   >-- Adjustment of the FM LO. Signal from an RF generator with   
   >    60 Ohm output impedance injected directly at the mixer (MP1?)   
   >    with a loaded signal level <2mV. Set the radio to FM.   
   >    - Tune to 88MHz and adjust (A) and (C) for maximum response.   
   >    - Tune to 106MHz and adjust (B) and (D) for maximum response,   
   >    Noise level is about 5 times kT0. Oscillator output voltage   
   >    75-85mV (at T2's emitter).   
      
   Thanks, Jeroen. Geez, you just can't win with these bastards. I've got   
   a 50 ohm signal generator and a 70 ohm one - but that's not good   
   enough for 'em. No, they want me to splash out on a 60 ohm one and   
   where am I going to source one of those??   
   And it doesn't stop there! I thought all my vintage servicing voltage   
   reading requirements would be met when I bought an old analogue Avo   
   with 20kohms/volt. But now it seems I need to scratch around for a   
   500ohms/volt one. It seems they're expecting whoever services these   
      
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