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   Cursitor Doom to jeroen@nospam.please   
   Re: Francophones (1/2)   
   21 Dec 24 21:37:59   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.design   
   From: cd@notformail.com   
      
   On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 22:31:36 +0100, Jeroen Belleman   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 12/21/24 22:07, Cursitor Doom wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 21:31:51 +0100, Jeroen Belleman   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 12/21/24 14:57, Cursitor Doom wrote:   
   >>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 08:57:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid   
   >>>> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Cursitor Doom  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 00:05:08 +0100, Jeroen Belleman   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 12/20/24 22:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 19:32:14 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid   
   >>>>>>>> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Do we have any French speakers on the Panel? I have a radio that's   
   >>>>>>>>>> badly in need of realignment and the only instructions I can find   
   are   
   >>>>>>>>>> a set in French. I can't use Google translate because they've used   
   too   
   >>>>>>>>>> many abbreviations in the text and they won't parse any sense.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I'm not a particularly fluent French speaker, but I could probably   
   sort   
   >>>>>>>>> out some technical instructions in French   If you want to send them   
   to   
   >>>>>>>>> me, I'll have a go (you should be able to work out my e-mail   
   address).   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Many thanks indeed for your kind offer. I suspect it will probably   
   >>>>>>>> require a native French speaker to decypher, but who knows?  :-)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm not a native French speaker, but I may be able to help anyway.   
   >>>>>>> Fire away.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Well that's interesing as I had did think you might respond given some   
   >>>>>> of the background you've revealed here in the past. I don't have the   
   >>>>>> relevant page here right now, but will make it available tomorrow. It   
   >>>>>> is only the one page and only one column of that, so nothing too   
   >>>>>> onerous. I did show it to a genuine French chum of mine a few weeks   
   >>>>>> ago, but he was stumped by the technical side of it and couldn't   
   >>>>>> assist much, unfortunately. So it appears it needs someone who can   
   >>>>>> speak French fluently *and* understands the process of radio   
   >>>>>> alignment. I kind of guessed that might be you....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Many years ago Practical Wireless published an article about the French   
   >>>>> 819-line high-definition television service which had been translated   
   >>>> >from French by someone who knew nothing about television or radio   
   >>>>> terminologyy.  It was hilarious nonsense but I eventually managed to   
   >>>>> translate it back into French so that I could understand it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If you post your text here, we can all have a go at it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Sorry for the delay; took a bit of tracking down but I have it now:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://disk.yandex.com/i/3SiZ6rN_k-fP4w   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's only page 1 that needs the translation - and of that, in   
   >>>> particular the abbreviated bits. I haven't read French since I was in   
   >>>> school about a hundred years ago, so it's all Dutch to me. :-)   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> This was translated from German into French by someone who also   
   >>> did not know clearly what it all meant. Not everything makes   
   >>> perfect sense.   
   >>>   
   >>> Also, while it doesn't say so, many of the adjustments interact,   
   >>> so you may have to go back and forth a few times. Anyway, here   
   >>> goes.   
   >>>   
   >>> Jeroen Belleman   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> ===============================================================   
   >>>   
   >>> -- DC current adjustments (for 9V supply)   
   >>>     - Adjustment of the push-pull audio stage:   
   >>>     Cut the solder bridge marked -x- in the collector trace of the   
   >>>     AC188 T11 and insert a current meter. Adjust R410 for 6.5mA.   
   >>>     Restore the bridge.   
   >>>     - Adjustment of the IF amplifier:   
   >>>     Set R515 to obtain 1.35V across T4's emitter resistor R518.   
   >>>   
   >>> -- Adjustment of the FM-IF stages. The radio should be set to "FM".   
   >>>     Connect a wobbulator centered on 10.7MHz at MP5 and the diode   
   >>>     detector shown at ZF VII (I think...) MP6. Detune ZF VIII (a).   
   >>>     Then tune ZFVII (b) for a symmetrical maximum response.   
   >>>     - Inject signal at MP3 and tune ZF VI (c) and ZF V (d) for   
   >>>     symmetrical maximum response.   
   >>>     - Inject signal on MP2 and adjust ZF IV (e) and ZF III (f) for   
   >>>     symmetrical maximum response.   
   >>>     - Inject a weakly coupled signal at the mixer (MP1?) and adjust   
   >>>     ZF II (g) and ZF I (h) for symmetrical maximum response.   
   >>>     - Discriminator: Inject signal at MP5, with a level low   
   >>>     enough that no limiting occurs in the IF strip. Observe the   
   >>>     signal at MP11 (audio amplifier input) with load impedance 50k.   
   >>>     Adjust ZF VIII (a) for symmetrical response.   
   >>>   
   >>> -- Adjustment of the AM IF (460kHz) stages. The radio should be   
   >>>     set to "PO" (AM, 560-1450kHz). Connect a measurement instrument   
   >>>     at MP4 (Weakly coupled).   
   >>>     - Inject a wobbulator signal at MP3 and adjust ZF XIII and ZF XII   
   >>>     for symmetrical maximum response.   
   >>>     - Inject signal at MP8 and adjust ZF XI for symmetrical maximum   
   >>>     response.   
   >>>     - Inject signal at MP7 and adjust ZF X and ZF IX for symmetrical   
   >>>     maximum response.   
   >>>   
   >>> -- Adjustment of local oscillator and AM input. For short and   
   >>>     medium wave, couple signal into the ferrite rod antenna using   
   >>>     the frame. For short wave, remove the rod antenna and couple   
   >>>     signal at the antenna connection through 15pF.   
   >>>     Tune to 560kHz and adjust (1) and (3) for maximum response.   
   >>>     Mixer sensitivity 13uV and oscillator output 60-90mV.   
   >>>     Tune to 1450 kHz and adjust (2) and (4) for maximum response.   
   >>>     - Set the radio to GO (Long wave, 160-240kHz).   
   >>>     Tune to 160kHz and adjust (5) and (6) for maximum response.   
   >>>     Mixer sensitivity 13uV and oscillator output 65-95mV.   
   >>>     - Set the radio to OC (Short wave, 6.5-15MHz)   
   >>>     Tune to 6.5MHz and adjust (8) and (10) for maximum response.   
   >>>     Tune to 15MHz and adjust (9) and (11) for maximum response.   
   >>>     Mixer sensitivity 5uV and oscillator output 35-90mV.   
   >>>   
   >>> -- Adjustment of the FM LO. Signal from an RF generator with   
   >>>     60 Ohm output impedance injected directly at the mixer (MP1?)   
   >>>     with a loaded signal level <2mV. Set the radio to FM.   
   >>>     - Tune to 88MHz and adjust (A) and (C) for maximum response.   
   >>>     - Tune to 106MHz and adjust (B) and (D) for maximum response,   
   >>>     Noise level is about 5 times kT0. Oscillator output voltage   
   >>>     75-85mV (at T2's emitter).   
   >>   
   >> Thanks, Jeroen. Geez, you just can't win with these bastards. I've got   
      
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