XPost: sci.electronics.design, alt.home.repair   
   From: jl@glen--canyon.com   
      
   On 30 Jan 2025 14:47:27 GMT, Allodoxaphobia    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:07:28 -0800, john larkin wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:04:05 +0100, Jeroen Belleman wrote:   
   >>>On 1/28/25 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:56:59 -0800, john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> [snip]   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> We have a horrible new Panasonic microwave oven. The BEEP is   
   >>>>> ear-splitting. The procedure to silence it is complex, and only   
   >>>>> works if the door is open.   
   >>>   
   >>>On one occasion, I muted an obnoxious beeper by stuffing   
   >>>chewing gum into it. There! Problem solved.   
   >>   
   >> I break the piezo buzzer, if I can get at it.   
   >>   
   >> We should arrest whoever invented piezo buzzers.   
   >> Put him in a prison cell with 100 piezos.   
   >   
   >Additionaly, if you have 'normal' hearing loss, those piezo buzzers   
   >cannot be heard without hearing aids.  I don't wear hearing aids   
   >to bed -- so smoke and carbon monoxide alarms will never awaken me.   
   >We had a CO 'incident' several years ago, and my wife heard the alarm.   
   >Not me.  I can be standing in front of the microwave and I won't know   
   >my coffee is hot until the "END" lights up.   
      
   Microwaves usually have a fan that makes lots of low frequency noise.   
   They don't really need a buzzer.   
      
   Piezos are cheap. For a few cents more they could use a speaker and   
   give users a choice of sounds.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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