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|    Re: inequalities in three variables    |
|    21 Aug 23 16:07:26    |
      From: danielpf@gmail.com              Le lundi 21 août 2023 à 23:06:21 UTC+2, DP a écrit :       > Le dimanche 20 août 2023 à 18:39:42 UTC+2, nob...@nowhere.invalid a écrit       :        > > Is there a simple way to show algebraically that:        > >        > > b^2 >= (a - c)^2 AND a^2 >= b^2        > >        > > implies:        > >        > > c^2 >= (a + b)^2 OR c^2 >= (a - b)^2        > >        > > where ">=" denotes "greater or equal"?        > >        > > Martin.       > Taking a = 2, b = 1, and c = -2 gives a counterexample as the first       proposition is false, while the second true.        >        > Dan              Sorry I misunderstood the problem, which is if the first proposition is true       then the second is true as well.              To show that let x = a+b, and y = a-b. Then from the first inequation it       comes after simplification        (c-x)(c-y) <= 0.              So there are two cases:       1) c <= x AND c >= y,       2) c >= x AND c <= y.              So either 1) is true and in this case        c >= y, that is c >= a-b, c^2 >= (a-b)^2,       or 2) is true and        c >= a+b, c^2 >= (a+b)^2.              Note that one could more completely say that       either c^2 >= (a-b)^2 AND c^2 <= (a+b)^2 OR c^2 >= (a+b)^2 AND c^2 <=       (a-b)^2.              One could also keep the original inequations 1) and 2),        c >= a-b AND c <= a+b OR c >= a+b AND c <= a-b.              Also it seems I didn't use the second inequation a^2 >= b^2       which yields xy >= 0 (x and y have the same sign).               Dan              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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