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|    Sam Blake to nob...@nowhere.invalid    |
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|    31 Oct 23 14:37:04    |
      From: samuel.thomas.blake@gmail.com              On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 5:59:01 AM UTC+11, nob...@nowhere.invalid       wrote:       > "clicl...@freenet.de" schrieb:        > >        > > Sam Blake schrieb:       > > >        > > > Here are some nice cube root-type integrals which may or may not be        > > > integrable using your Goursat adaption. I am guessing that as Rubi        > > > cannot integrate these that they may not be Goursat type integrals?        > > >        > > > (1 + x)/(x*(-1 + x^3)^(1/3))        > > > (-1 + x^2)/(x*(-1 + x^3)^(2/3))        > > > ((1 + x)*(-1 + x^3)^(1/3))/((-1 + x)^2*x)        > > > ((-1 + x)^2*(1 + x))/(x*(1 + x + x^2)*(-1 + x^3)^(1/3))        > > > ((1 + x)*(-1 + x^3)^(2/3))/((-1 + x)^3*x)        > > > (x*(-2 + x^3))/((-1 + x^3)^(1/3)*(-1 + x^3 + x^6))        > > > (x^3*(2 + x^3))/((1 + x^3)^(2/3)*(1 + x^3 + x^6))        > > > ((1 - x^3)^(1/3)*(-2 + x^3))/(x^3*(-1 + x^3 + x^6))        > > > ((2 + x + x^2)*(-1 + x^3)^(1/3))/(x*(-1 + x^2)^2*(-3 - 2*x + x^2 + x^3))        > > > (1 + 3*x)/((-1 + 3*x)*(-x + x^3)^(1/3))        > > > ((-1 + x)*(1 + 3*x))/((-1 + 3*x)*(-x + x^3)^(2/3))        > > > ((-1 + x)^2*(1 + 3*x))/(x*(1 + x)*(-1 + 3*x)*(-x + x^3)^(1/3))        > > > (x*(1 + x)*(1 + 3*x))/((-1 + x)*(-1 + 3*x)*(-x + x^3)^(2/3))        > > > (x*(1 + x)*(1 + 3*x))/((-1 + x)^2*(-1 + 3*x)*(-x + x^3)^(1/3))        > > >        > >        > > There are 14 integrands here. The first two are readily integrated by        > > Derive 6.10 and should therefore be doable by standard recipes from        > > books like G&R and Timofeev:        > >        > > INT((x + 1)/(x*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)), x)        > > INT((x^2 - 1)/(x*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3)), x)        > >        > > So Rubi could and should be tought to do these as well.        > >        > > The subsequent twelve integrands, however, fail in Derive 6.10:        > >        > > INT((x + 1)*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)/(x*(x - 1)^2), x)        > > INT((x + 1)*(x - 1)^2/(x*(x^2 + x + 1)*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)), x)        > > INT((x + 1)*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3)/(x*(x - 1)^3), x)        > > INT(x*(x^3 - 2)/((x^3 - 1)^(1/3)*(x^6 + x^3 - 1)), x)        > > INT(x^3*(x^3 + 2)/((x^3 + 1)^(2/3)*(x^6 + x^3 + 1)), x)        > > INT((1 - x^3)^(1/3)*(x^3 - 2)/(x^3*(x^6 + x^3 - 1)), x)        > > INT((x^2 + x + 2)*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)/(x*(x^2 - 1)^2*(x^3 + x^2 - 2*x - 3)),        > > x)        > > INT((3*x + 1)/((3*x - 1)*(x^3 - x)^(1/3)), x)        > > INT((x - 1)*(3*x + 1)/((3*x - 1)*(x^3 - x)^(2/3)), x)        > > INT((x - 1)^2*(3*x + 1)/(x*(x + 1)*(3*x - 1)*(x^3 - x)^(1/3)), x)        > > INT(x*(x + 1)*(3*x + 1)/((x - 1)*(3*x - 1)*(x^3 - x)^(2/3)), x)        > > INT(x*(x + 1)*(3*x + 1)/((x - 1)^2*(3*x - 1)*(x^3 - x)^(1/3)), x)        > >        > > My Goursat tests for cube-root integrands determine all but the four        > > integrals from #6 to #9 to be directly of Goursat type, which means        > > that the integrands become rational under one of the characteristic        > > substitutions. Of the other four, the first three become Goursat        > > integrable under the fairly obvious substitution t = x^3.        > >        > > A more involved substitution must have been used to scramble integrand        > > #9; even FriCAS fails on this one, but succeeds once t = x^3 has been        > > applied. The substitution doesn't make the integrand look nicer        > > though, and while the change cannot be considered momentous either,        > > for FriCAS it evidently is. The integrand simplifies a bit when an        > > algebraic part of the antiderivative is removed:        > >        > > INT((x^2 + x + 2)*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)/        > > (x*(x^2 - 1)^2*(x^3 + x^2 - 2*x - 3)), x) =        > > (x^3 - 1)^(1/3)/(x^2 - 1) +        > > INT((x^2 - 1)*(x^2 + x + 2)/        > > (x*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3)*(x^3 + x^2 - 2*x - 3)), x)        > >        > > There is no reason to assume that Rubi can handle Goursat type        > > integrals in general.        > >       > For the record, and as an "optimal" reference solution for Nasser's        > integrator tests, a compact antiderivative of the non-Goursat integral        > #9:       > INT((x^2 + x + 2)*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)/(x*(x^2 - 1)^2*(x^3 + x^2 - 2*x - 3)),        > x)       > is given by a sum of the following five components:        >        > - INT(x*(x^2 + x + 2)/((x + 1)*(x^2 - 1)*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3)), x) =       > (x^3 - 1)^(1/3)/(x^2 - 1)       > INT(2/(3*x*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3)), x) =        > - 2*SQRT(3)/9*ATAN(SQRT(3)/3*(1 - 2*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)))        > + 1/3*LN((x^3 - 1)^(1/3) + 1) - 1/9*LN(x^3)        >        > - INT(x^2*(2*x^6 - 19*x^3 - 10)        > /(3*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3)*(x^9 - 2*x^6 + x^3 - 27)), x) =        > SQRT(3)/9*ATAN(SQRT(3)/3*(1 - 2*(2*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3) + x^3 - 4)        > /((x^3 - 1)^(1/3)*(2*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3) + 3))))        > + 1/6*LN(- 2*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3) + 3*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3) + x^3 - 4)        > - 1/18*LN(x^9 - 2*x^6 + x^3 - 27)        >        > INT(x*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)*(3*x^3 - 1)/(x^9 - 2*x^6 + x^3 - 27), x) =        > SQRT(3)/9*ATAN(SQRT(3)/3*(1 + 2*(x*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3))/3))        > + 1/6*LN(x*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3) - 3) - 1/18*LN(x^9 - 2*x^6 + x^3 - 27)        >        > INT((x^9 - 3*x^6 + 8*x^3 + 3)        > /((x^3 - 1)^(2/3)*(x^9 - 2*x^6 + x^3 - 27)), x) =        > SQRT(3)/9*ATAN(SQRT(3)/3*(1 + 2*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3)*(x*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3) - 3)        > /(3*((x^3 - 1)^(1/3) + x^2))))        > + 1/6*LN(x*(x^3 - 1)^(2/3) + 3*(x^3 - 1)^(1/3) - 3*x^2)        > - 1/18*LN(x^9 - 2*x^6 + x^3 - 27)        >        > All but the first and last of these turn into classical cases of        > elementary integrals under the substitutions t = x^3 or t = 1/x^3.        >        > Of course, the three -1/18*LN(x^9 - 2*x^6 + x^3 - 27) terms should be        > merged into one. Is the FriCAS antiderivative suboptimal because its        > leaf count exceeds twice that of this optimal result?        >        > Martin.              Hey Martin,               Here's my solution for this integral:               In[431]:= IntegrateAlgebraic[((x^2 + x + 2) (x^3 - 1)^(1/3))/(x (x^2 - 1)^2       (x^3 + x^2 - 2 x - 3)), x]              Out[431]= (-1 + x^3)^(1/3)/(-1 + x^2) - ArcTan[(Sqrt[3] (-1 + x^3)^(1/3))/(-2       + 2 x^2 + (-1 + x^3)^(1/3))]/Sqrt[3] +        1/3 Log[1 - x^2 + (-1 + x^3)^(1/3)] - 1/6 Log[1 - 2 x^2 + x^4 + (-1 + x^2) (-1       + x^3)^(1/3) + (-1 + x^3)^(2/3)]              Where the substitution u == (1-x^2)/(-1+x^3)^(1/3) reduces the integral to       1/(u^2 (1+u^3)).               Cheers,              Sam              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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