From: dbrooks@runforyourlife.org   
      
   On 8/10/24 2:50 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:   
      
   > On 8/10/2024 2:21 PM, Dudley Brooks wrote:   
   >   
   >> I clicked on a message here and got a "Not Found" error.   
   >>   
   >> I then clicked on "Delete All Expired Messages" ... and the entire ng   
   >> contents disappeared except for the single post "LLM and Prolog, a   
   >> Marriage in Heaven? (Re: 42 is the answer)" !!!   
   >>   
   >> Is this true???  Is there really nothing in this ng???  Or is this   
   >> some bug in Thunderbird.   
   >>   
   >> Someone please post and let me know that No, everything really is   
   >> still here.   
   >>   
   >> Then I can try to figure out the TB bug or switch to a different ng   
   >> reader.   
   >   
   > TB works fine with this newsgroup. This forum is one that only sees   
   > posts when there is something to say. Almost all of the traffic consists   
   > of descriptions of symbolic systems' tests and statistics that compare   
   > these systems. There is also some discussions of what is tested and how   
   > as well as system idiosyncrasies that may cause anomalous results.   
   >   
   > Running tests is labor intensive and there are time gaps between these   
   > runs to think about how to grow the test suite. In addition, there is no   
   > point in running and reporting unless either some systems have released   
   > newer versions or the testing itself has been updated.   
   >   
   > Every once in a while, one of the testers either releases new results   
   > and/ or asks for comments then an appropriate conversation will follow.   
   > Occasionally an interloper such as you or I will pop in and there is a   
   > little flurry of messages. Otherwise, this forum is here for a dedicated   
   > group of people who are interested and knowledgeable in symbolic   
   > mathematics when they have something to say.   
      
   That's fine.  That's why I'm interested in the ng.   
      
   But my question was not about what the ng is FOR, or how often anyone posts.   
      
   It was about whether there are ANY MESSAGES AT ALL in the ng!   
      
   My experience was this:   
      
   Every time this ng shows that it has a new posting, I open the ng.   
      
   I always see the new posting ... and I always see the large number of   
   old postings.  (I don't remember offhand what the number is.)   
      
   I click on TB's "Show unread" so that I can focus on whatever is new.   
      
   For each new post (and yes, in this ng that is never very many) I either   
   read it or click it Unread.   
      
   I then click on Show All ... and there, once again, are the large number   
   of old, and formerly new but now old, postings.   
      
   Today I did exactly that ... except ...   
      
   After clicking on Show All, I saw an old one which seemed interesting,   
   so I clicked on it to read it ...   
      
   ... and it gave an Expired message.   
      
   So I clicked on TB's Delete All Expired Messages ...   
      
   ... and EVERYTHING DISAPPEARED, except for the one single message which   
   I saw above!  The entire message list pane was blank except for that one   
   message!   
      
   I thought maybe I had clicked on Show Unread again, but I had not.  It   
   was still on Show All ... and All was only a single message!   
      
   So I ask you.  When you look at this ng right now, how many messages are   
   you seeing?   
      
   Because I'm only seeing three messages IN THE ENTIRE NG: The one I   
   mention above, my question, and your answer.  NOTHING ELSE!   
      
      
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