XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   XPost: comp.lang.prolog   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/24/2026 1:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 1/24/26 12:56 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 1/24/2026 11:17 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 1/22/26 7:15 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 1/22/2026 6:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>> On 1/22/26 12:40 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>> Well-founded proof theoretic semantics where True(L, x)   
   >>>>>> is anchored in provability from the axioms of formal   
   >>>>>> system L seems to eliminate the undecidability that   
   >>>>>> model theoretic semantics encounters when truth is   
   >>>>>> measured from outside of the formal system in a separate   
   >>>>>> model.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But GOdel's proof wasn't based on a truth outside the system.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The proof was based outside the system,   
   >>>> Hence requiring provability in the system has   
   >>>> always been totally wrong-headed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Nope, when in the system, that is all you know.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> So you think that inside and outside are the same thing?   
   >>   
   >   
   > No, but the outside can know everything about the inside, and make   
   > things that work on the inside.   
   >   
      
   Only because outside you have meta-math to   
   look at these things and inside you only have PA.   
      
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   "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
   
   reliably computable.

   
      
   This required establishing a new foundation
   
      
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