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|    clicliclic@freenet.de to Peter Nachtwey    |
|    Re: I finally bought Mathematica but...    |
|    18 Jul 14 21:20:47    |
      Peter Nachtwey schrieb:       >       > Thanks Nasser, I got a solution but it was big. Trying       > FullSimplify[%] now.       >              Here's that solution by Derive 6.10. It's actually four closely related       solutions, and I wouldn't call them big:              [x0=(r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)+SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQR~       T(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)*(m0+m1)*SQRT~       (m0^2+1))/((m0+m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)*(m1-m0)) AND x1=(r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)~       +SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1~       ^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)*(m0+m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1))/((m0+m1)*(~       m1-m0)*SQRT(m1^2+1)) AND xc=(r*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1~       ^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*((m0-m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)-m~       0^2*m1+m0*(m1^2+1)-m1)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)*(m0^2-m1^2))/((m0^2-m~       1^2)*(m1-m0)) AND y0=(m0*r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)+SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(2*m0~       *m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+~       (m0+m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)*(b0*m1-b1*m0))/(SQRT(m0^2+1)*(m1^2-m0^2)) A~       ND y1=(m1*r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)+SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1~       )*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(m0+m1)*SQRT(m1~       ^2+1)*(b0*m1-b1*m0))/((m1^2-m0^2)*SQRT(m1^2+1)) AND yc=(b0*m1-b1~       *m0)/(m1-m0)-r*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1~       ^2+1)+m1^2)/ABS(m0-m1),x0=(r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)+SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(2*~       m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1~       )-(b0-b1)*(m0+m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1))/((m0+m1)*(m0-m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)) A~       ND x1=(r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)+SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*S~       QRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)-(b0-b1)*(m0+m1)*SQ~       RT(m1^2+1))/((m0+m1)*(m0-m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)) AND xc=(r*SQRT(2*m0*m~       1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*((m0-m1)*SQRT(~       m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)-m0^2*m1+m0*(m1^2+1)-m1)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)~       *(m1^2-m0^2))/((m0-m1)*(m0^2-m1^2)) AND y0=(m0*r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)+S~       QRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2~       +1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)-(m0+m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)*(b0*m1-b1*m0))/(SQRT(~       m0^2+1)*(m0^2-m1^2)) AND y1=(m1*r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)+SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQ~       RT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(~       m0-m1)-(m0+m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)*(b0*m1-b1*m0))/((m0^2-m1^2)*SQRT(m1^~       2+1)) AND yc=r*SQRT(2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1~       ^2+1)+m1^2)/ABS(m0-m1)+(b0*m1-b1*m0)/(m1-m0),x0=(r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)~       -SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m~       1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)*(m0+m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1))/((m0+m1)*~       SQRT(m0^2+1)*(m1-m0)) AND x1=(r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)-SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT~       (-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m~       0-m1)-(b0-b1)*(m0+m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1))/((m0+m1)*(m0-m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1~       )) AND xc=(r*((m0-m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*m1-m0*(m1^2~       +1)+m1)*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+~       m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)*(m1^2-m0^2))/((m0-m1)*(m0^2-m1^2)) AND~        y0=(m0*r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)-SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)~       *SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(m0+m1)*SQRT(m0^~       2+1)*(b0*m1-b1*m0))/(SQRT(m0^2+1)*(m1^2-m0^2)) AND y1=(m1*r*(SQR~       T(m0^2+1)-SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+~       m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)-(m0+m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)*(b0*m1-b1~       *m0))/((m0^2-m1^2)*SQRT(m1^2+1)) AND yc=(b0*m1-b1*m0)/(m1-m0)-r*~       SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)/AB~       S(m0-m1),x0=(r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)-SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0~       ^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)-(b0-b1)*(m0~       +m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1))/((m0+m1)*(m0-m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)) AND x1=(r*(SQR~       T(m0^2+1)-SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+~       m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)*(m0+m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1))/~       ((m0+m1)*(m1-m0)*SQRT(m1^2+1)) AND xc=(r*((m0-m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)*S~       QRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*m1-m0*(m1^2+1)+m1)*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*S~       QRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(b0-b1)*(m0^2-m1^2~       ))/((m0^2-m1^2)*(m1-m0)) AND y0=(m0*r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)-SQRT(m1^2+1)~       )*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*~       SIGN(m0-m1)-(m0+m1)*SQRT(m0^2+1)*(b0*m1-b1*m0))/(SQRT(m0^2+1)*(m~       0^2-m1^2)) AND y1=(m1*r*(SQRT(m0^2+1)-SQRT(m1^2+1))*SQRT(-2*m0*m~       1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1^2)*SIGN(m0-m1)+(m~       0+m1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)*(b0*m1-b1*m0))/((m1^2-m0^2)*SQRT(m1^2+1)) AND~        yc=r*SQRT(-2*m0*m1*SQRT(m0^2+1)*SQRT(m1^2+1)+m0^2*(2*m1^2+1)+m1~       ^2)/ABS(m0-m1)+(b0*m1-b1*m0)/(m1-m0),x0-xc=0 AND x1*SQRT(m1^2+1)~       -xc*SQRT(m1^2+1)=m1*r AND y0=b0 AND y1=(b0*SQRT(m1^2+1)-r*(SQRT(~       m1^2+1)+1))/SQRT(m1^2+1) AND yc=b0-r AND m0=0,x0-xc=0 AND x1*SQR~       T(m1^2+1)-xc*SQRT(m1^2+1)=m1*r AND y0=b0 AND y1=(b0*SQRT(m1^2+1)~       +r*(SQRT(m1^2+1)-1))/SQRT(m1^2+1) AND yc=b0+r AND m0=0,x0-xc=0 A~       ND x1*SQRT(m1^2+1)-xc*SQRT(m1^2+1)=-m1*r AND y0=b0 AND y1=(b0*SQ~       RT(m1^2+1)+r*(SQRT(m1^2+1)+1))/SQRT(m1^2+1) AND yc=b0+r AND m0=0~       ,x0-xc=0 AND x1*SQRT(m1^2+1)-xc*SQRT(m1^2+1)=-m1*r AND y0=b0 AND~        y1=(b0*SQRT(m1^2+1)-r*(SQRT(m1^2+1)-1))/SQRT(m1^2+1) AND yc=b0-~       r AND m0=0,x0-xc+m0*(y0-b1-r)=0 AND x1-xc=0 AND m0*xc-y0*(m0^2+1~       )=-b0-m0^2*(b1+r) AND y1=b1 AND yc=b1+r AND m1=0,x0-xc+m0*(y0-b1~       +r)=0 AND x1-xc=0 AND m0*xc-y0*(m0^2+1)=-b0-m0^2*(b1-r) AND y1=b~       1 AND yc=b1-r AND m1=0]              The factor SIGN(m0-m1) can be set to 1 throughout, I think, as the sign       of the accompanying square root alternates betwen solutions.              Martin.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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