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|    clicliclic@freenet.de to Waldek Hebisch    |
|    Re: Announce: FriCAS 1.2.4 has been rele    |
|    14 Feb 15 19:19:46    |
      Waldek Hebisch schrieb:       >       > clicliclic@freenet.de wrote:       > >       > > Rationalizing by substitution belongs to the 18th century (the age       > > of the Bernoullis and Euler), for a Risch integrator it amounts to       > > admitting defeat!       >       > Of course I would like to handle such integrals using general       > code. But when there is rationalizing substitution, then       > execution time is usualy much better compared to full Trager       > procedure. So this is desirable optimization.       >              Your use of the term optimization is futuristic in that it is relative       to a procedure that has been described but not been implemented in       FriCAS or elsewhere.              > >       > > Alternatively, Kauers' Groebner-basis heuristics could be resorted       > > to when an algebraic integral is pronounced ">> ... impossible". He       > > does it in about ten lines of code ...       >       > Ten lines of pseudo code. Real code that only handles very simple       > case is already longer. More complicated cases need code which       > introduces extra variables. The real problem is exection time.       > I could add to FriCAS few lines of code (probably more than 10)       > that will "handle" general case. But ATM there is no hope that       > such code would finish execution in reasonable time. Groebner       > bases do well in simple cases, but may also lead to enormous       > execution time. At least theoretically Trager procedure has       > lower complexity than Groebner bases, so it is not clear if       > adding Groebner bases to the mix helps.       >              And also about ten lines of Mathematica code in the Appendix - but this       line count does not include a separate interface package used to access       Singular on whose Groebner basis engine the code relies (without real       need, I suppose).              So everybody is holding their breath in expectation of a full       implementation of Trager's futuristic procedure in some FriCAS version       1.2.x with 5 |
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