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|    IV to Christopher Creutzig    |
|    Re: General method for solving radical e    |
|    04 Aug 15 01:20:34    |
      XPost: sci.math       From: ivgroups@onlinehome.de              "Christopher Creutzig" wrote in news:55BF4963.6070803@mathworks.com...       >> A symbolic solution: There is an algebraic expression only for this       >> solution.       > What exactly do you mean by that? “Any x such that x^5-x+1=0” is a       > perfectly valid symbolic solution to me, is it to you as well?       >       > Keyword to look for in the literature (not sure if you find any good       > material online): Galois groups, solvable Galois groups.       I had expected that this question would come. I wrote (see above): "There is       an algebraic expression only for this solution." That should mean: "o n l y       for t h i s solution". For example: x = A. A an algebraic expression       without x. x = A shall be a defining equation for x, only for one       representative of the solutions x.       Your algebraic equation x^5-x+1=0 is symbolic, but it is not the final       solution. But for the radical equations, it is a partial solution. One part       of my question was, if each radical equation can be transformed by symbolic       (or algebraic?) transformations into a related algebraic equation. I think       now, each radical equation can only have algebraic solutions.       We know, there are symbolic (= closed form) algebraic solutions (expressible       as radical expressions, according to your solvable Galois groups) and       non-symbolic algebraic solutions of an algebraic equation. The other part of       my original question is, if the non-extraneous (= non-spurious) symbolic       solutions of the related algebraic equation are the same as those of the       underlying radical equation.       I know solvable Galois groups are the key for that. But I guess I cannot       find the answer for the radical equations in the literature about Galois       groups. Is it possible, that an algebraic solution of a radical equation can       be written by an algebraic expression, but the Galois group of the related       algebraic equation is not solvable? Does that depend on the method which is       used for transforming the radical equation into an algebraic equation? Is       there a Galois group of a radical equation, and its solvability decides on       the symbolic solutions? Can someone help to answer this naive and simple       questions?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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