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   Axel Vogt to Peter Luschny   
   Re: Simplifying exponential expressions   
   30 Aug 15 15:24:07   
   
   XPost: comp.soft-sys.math.maple   
   From: &noreply@axelvogt.de   
      
   On 30.08.2015 14:30, Peter Luschny wrote:   
   >> After simplify(), apply convert(%, exp).   
   >   
   > Thanks Rouben!   
   >   
   > The situation as I see it is: I want to go from San Francisco   
   > to Los Angles by car and buy a automotive navigation system.   
   > I start, follow the instructions and after a while I find   
   > myself in Las Vegas. So I call the manufacturer and complain.   
   > The manufacturer answers: Hey, there is another button on the   
   > device, the blue one, press it and it will lead you to Los   
   > Angeles. And indeed it does.   
   >   
   > So is this OK or absurd? I do know that an algorithmic solution   
   > of simplification problems require some regularizations and   
   > mapping to some standard internal representation before they   
   > can be solved. However it is the promise of a CAS to do this   
   > internally.   
   >   
   > In the examples I wanted expressions simplified to 1 or to 0   
   > not to an exponential expression. Other CASs understand this   
   > -- but not Maple.   
   >   
      
   I do not think that there is a generally agreed way. And you   
   example is not a good example, as many examples.   
      
   Maple thinks that cosh is more simple than exp, it does not   
   go that route without being directed. And it certainly does   
   not try all routes.   
      
   What I could 'accept' is: why  exp(x)+exp(-x) does not show   
   cosh when 'simplify' is called? But even that may have some   
   good reason: having more terms it may be that one does *not*   
   want that. For example consider some discounting function   
   and after 'simplify' one would end up in trigonometric terms.   
   Here it tries to simplify in terms of exp.   
      
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