From: janburse@fastmail.fm   
      
   And here is the last of harassements of Richard Fateman,   
   he thought funny to send me directly to bursejan@gmail.com:   
      
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   To: bursejan@gmail.com   
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   From: Richard Fateman    
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   Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:23:16 -0700   
      
   On 6/30/2017 11:04 AM, bursejan@gmail.com wrote:   
    > computer lab != mathematical laboratory?   
      
   a computer lab is a room which enables people access to computers.   
   These days it might be a room full of personal computers attached to   
   a central server and perhaps the internet.   
      
   a mathematical laboratory in Engeler's concept, could be a computer   
   lab in which certain software of some mathematical nature is   
   pre-packaged and available, and perhaps the users of this lab   
   would be familiar with the software.  Maybe there would be   
   one or more consultants available to help.   
      
   The availability of high-speed networking and relatively powerful   
   home computers makes it possible to work in a "mathematical   
   laboratory" without leaving home.   
      
   What's your point?   
      
      I am just suggesting that instead of   
   programming, maybe you should read the literature, and decide   
   if you are in a position to advance the state of the art, or have   
   another good reason for spending your time on a particular task.   
      
   I might disagree with your reason, but I would still like to think   
   that you would do better if you read the literature.   
      
   For example, Sage and sympy people think that they have   
   a good reason for writing duplicative code because their   
   version is in Python, instead of C or Lisp.  I don't agree that   
   this is a great idea, but at least they mostly look at the literature.   
      
   RJF   
      
      
      
    >   
    > Goals and design considerations for a mathematical   
    > laboratory. SIGSAM Bulletin 21 (1987) 7-8.   
    >   
    > Am Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 19:47:15 UTC+2 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:   
    >> Richard Fateman wrote personally to me:   
    >>   
    >>> Have you read any of the recent literature on efficient GB computation?   
    >>>   
    >>> Your postings suggest that you are following the old joke on   
    >>> how to do research ...   
    >>>   
    >>> A week in the computer lab can save an hour in the library.   
      
   j4n bur53 schrieb:   
   > Here is yet further responses of Richard Fateman:   
      
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