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|    02 Jul 17 15:05:00    |
      Hi RJF,              Thank you for your many suggestions. But you are missing       the point. I have no aspiration to advance the art of       CAS, what ever this should mean.              I am humble reimplementer, like a painter who paints       a false picasso. So my art is redoing things that have       long before people done, maybe not anymore walking on earth.              This redoing already started with Jekejeke Prolog which       was done 1986 while at ETHZ. I leave advancing the art to       others, better endowed (funds, resources, etc..) for this              endeawour, including the mainy failures this implies. After       all, what is the duty of universities etc.. than to advance       knowledge, for all. If you don't agree with this use of       knowledge by me, there is no use at all of continuing       discussions with you.              In Switzerland, ETHZ and EPFL are funded mostly by tax       money. So it was already my tax money. What do I get in       exchange for this money? How does research fertilize       industry? What role could a USENET group play?              I can only conclude that you, RJF, are not in good mental       health state. You started your email communication with me,       by suggesting I should go to a library and read books,       i.e. use this knowledge, now I am the bad guy because       I dont advance the art.              You have to decide, what do you want me to do?       - Go to a library read books and reimplement existing stuff?       - Advance the art of CAS, do original and relevant things?       - Both? What if I want to do neither, if my needs are different?              Doing both might be your typical profile, its the typical       scholarly requirement. On the other hand my profile looks       a little bit different. I wrote like a dozen times what my       profile is, that I am seeking breath and not depth.              The scope of my profile is not to advance the art of CAS.       The current project is here to realize a cobweb of CAS       algorithms, with satisficing performance to get a grip       what the pros and cons are of the actual Jekejeke interpreter,              and what further requirements there would be, to make       the Jekejeke interpreter more fit for this problem domain.       This is one goal. There are of course also other projects of       mine with other goals, etc..              But you should have learned by now RJF:       - This project falls not into the category of standard CAS resarch       - its a project of mine with some very specific goals of mine       - These goals have less to do with CAS and more to do with logic programming              Lets make an example. How do you implement matrix inversion       in Prolog? Well we figured out a way to do it (also around       December 2016), without any destructive operations. Recently       I saw that XCAS uses a similar approach.              The results might flow back into the Prolog community for       example. Or they might get lost in the mist of time. Anyway       I have some loose ties to Jan Wielemaker from SWI-Prolog and       Ulrich Neumerkel from WG17 (ISO Standard).              So what do you exactly want from me RJF? Change my relegion,       make a pilgrimage to berkley, and get baptized as a CAS       researcher, which is far away from my real aspiration? Do       you think I am complete bonkers?              Bye              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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