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|    Albert Rich to clicl...@freenet.de    |
|    Re: fyi, new build of CAS integration te    |
|    03 Oct 17 20:58:20    |
      From: Albert_Rich@msn.com              On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 6:40:04 AM UTC-10, clicl...@freenet.de wrote:       > The appearance of the imaginary unit #i should render this result       > meaningless to many students of analysis.       >        > The Rubi antiderivative above does not have this defect, but another       > recent result (from Albert's post of Fri, 22 Sep 2017 in the thread       > "can your system handle 4th-root pseudo-elliptics?") does:       >        > ArcTan[x/(Sqrt[2]*(x^2-1)^(1/4))]/Sqrt[2] +        > ArcTanh[x/(Sqrt[2]*(x^2-1)^(1/4))]/Sqrt[2] -        > 2*(1-x^2)^(1/4)/(x^2-1)^(1/4)*EllipticE[ArcSin[x]/2,2]       >        > Can you spot the problem?       >        > Martin.              The problem is the (1-x^2)^(1/4) factor in the EllipticE term which is       imaginary when x^2>1; whereas x^2/((2-x^2)*(x^2-1)^(1/4)) is real when x^2>1.        The forthcoming Rubi 4.14 resolves this problem as follows:              For the antiderivative of 1/(x^2-1)^(3/4), Rubi 4.13 returns               2*(1-x^2)^(3/4) / (x^2-1)^(3/4) * EllipticF[ArcSin[x]/2, 2]              Although nice and compact, it is imaginary on the entire real line; whereas       the integrand is real when x^2>1. Using the nonobvious piecewise-constant       extraction sqrt(x^2)/x, followed by the substitution u=(x^2-1)^(1/4), Rubi       4.14 will return               Sqrt[x^2/(1+Sqrt[x^2-1])^2] * (1+Sqrt[x^2-1])/x *         EllipticF[2*ArcTan[(x^2-1)^(1/4)],1/2]              which is real and continuous on the real line when the integrand is real.              The same piecewise-constant extraction and substitution will be used to find a       similarly optimal antiderivative of 1/(x^2-1)^(1/4). Since               x^2/((2-x^2)*(x^2-1)^(1/4)) =         2/((2-x^2)*(x^2-1)^(1/4)) - 1/(x^2-1)^(1/4),              the integral of 1/(x^2-1)^(1/4) is the elliptic term of the integral of       x^2/((2-x^2)*(x^2-1)^(1/4)) which will now be real when x^2>1.              However, there may still remain a problem. For the pseudo-elliptic integrand       1/((2-x^2)*(x^2-1)^(1/4)), Rubi returns               ArcTan[x/(Sqrt[2]*(x^2-1)^(1/4))]/(2*Sqrt[2]) + ArcTanh[x/(S       rt[2]*(x^2-1)^(1/4))]/(2*Sqrt[2])              which is never real on the real line, although the integrand is when x^2>1.        This is analogous to the way log(x) is not real when x<0, although 1/x is real       on the entire real line. So is the above antiderivative for 1/(       2-x^2)*(x^2-1)^(1/4)) optimal in        terms of reality?              Albert              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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