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|    clicliclic@freenet.de to Albert Rich    |
|    Re: fyi, new build of CAS integration te    |
|    07 Oct 17 18:39:25    |
      Albert Rich schrieb:       >       > On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 6:21:59 AM UTC-10, clicl...@freenet.de       wrote:       >       > > I believe that:       > >       > > SQRT(x^2/(1 + SQRT(x^2 - 1))^2)*(1 + SQRT(x^2 - 1))/x = x/SQRT(x^2)       > >       > > FriCAS will probably squeal, but can Mathematica or Maple validate       > > or invalidate this simplification?       > >       >       > Dividing both sides of the proposed identity by (1+sqrt(x^2-1))/x       > gives       >       > sqrt(x^2/(1+sqrt(x^2-1))^2) = sqrt(x^2)/(1+SQRT(x^2-1))       >       > which is an equation of the form sqrt(z^2)=z with       > z=sqrt(x^2)/(1+SQRT(x^2-1)).       >       > sqrt(z^2)=z is valid iff re(z)>=0 for all complex z. Thus to prove       > the proposed identity need to show re(sqrt(x^2)/(1+SQRT(x^2-1)))>=0       > for all complex x. Any ideas?       >              I think your equivalence must be amended as follows:               sqrt(z^2) = z iff re(z) > 0 or (re(z) = 0 and im(z) >= 0)              And for simplicity one may consider:               z = re(sqrt(w)/(1+sqrt(w-1)))              for all complex numbers w = x^2.              Martin.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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