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|    clicliclic@freenet.de to Albert Rich    |
|    Re: More teething help    |
|    29 Jan 18 06:38:30    |
      Albert Rich schrieb:       >       > I would like to be able to assure users that Rubi will find at least       > near optimal antiderivatives for all integrands of the form       >       > x^m*(a+b*x^3)^p*(c+d*x^3)^q       >       > where m and p are integers, and q is a half-integer. For that I need       > to know:       >       > In light of the ongoing theoretical discussion on this thread, is the       > antiderivative of x/((b+x^3)*sqrt(1+x^3)) elementary for any values of       > b other than 4 and -8. If so, can someone give me an example and its       > elementary antiderivative.       >              Testing for standard Goursat cases (Eq. 5 on p. 111 of Goursat's 1887       paper) leads to (b + 8)*(b^2 - 20*b - 8) = 0, any such b suffices for       an elementary antiderivative, which FriCAS should be able to determine.       I have not implemented the material in paragraphs 4 and 5 of Goursat's       paper, which is special to the radical SQRT(x^3-1), but nothing new       seems to follow from it (Goursat may not have been aware of the fact       that his eq. 5 alone suffices to detect b = -8).              Testing for Goursat cases of the equivalent cube-root integrand leads       to (b + 8)*(b - 4) = 0, as mentioned in a post of Sun, 21 August 2016       18:12:49 +0200 already (the thread was entitled "Rubi 4.9.2 do not       integrate Timofeev #319 while 4.9 does"). Such tests of cube-root       integrands do not appear in Goursat's paper (or elsewhere to my       knowledge), but the case of b = 4 apparently goes undetected otherwise.              Needless to say, the cases of b = 10 +- 6*SQRT(3) result in new cube-       root pseudo-elliptics as well.              For any possible further (i.e. non-Goursat) pseudo-elliptic instances       of your integrand, somebody more familiar with elliptic curves must be       consulted.              Martin.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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