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|    clicliclic@freenet.de to antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl    |
|    Re: what special about 18 in this integr    |
|    26 Feb 18 07:36:19    |
      antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl schrieb:       >       > [...]       >       > One can argue that the optimal result for such integrals       > is root sum. It will simplify when it should, that is       > when you differentiate it, but will stay in symbolic       > form when no simplification is possible (that is in       > normal arithmetic). And it is easy to understand       > structure of integral when given as root sum.       >              How would the 72.2 kilobyte FriCAS antiderivative of:               integrate(x/((10 - 6*sqrt(3) + x^3)*sqrt(1 + x^3)), x)              look as a root sum? The integer coefficients of up to 18 decimal digits       in your current output are bigger than one would expect from simply       merging the 5 ATANHs and 3 ATANs of:              INT(x/((x^3 - 6*SQRT(3) + 10)*SQRT(x^3 + 1)), x)        = 12^(1/4)*(2 + SQRT(3))/36*       (2*ATANH(12^(1/4)*(SQRT(3) + 1)*SQRT(x^3 + 1)/6)        - 3*ATANH(12^(1/4)*(SQRT(3) - 1)*(x + 1)/(2*SQRT(x^3 + 1))))        + SQRT(2)*3^(3/4)*(2 + SQRT(3))/36*       (2*ATAN(12^(1/4)*(2*x + SQRT(3) - 1)/(2*SQRT(x^3 + 1)))        - ATAN(12^(1/4)*(SQRT(3) + 1)*(x + 1)/(2*SQRT(x^3 + 1))))              But this may be a consequence of setSimplifyDenomsFlag(true).              Martin.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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